In the example I give:
...
message_buffer[0] = 'F';
io_vector[0].iov_base = message_buffer;
io_vector[0].iov_len = 1;

memset(&msg, 0, sizeof(struct msghdr));
msg.msg_iov = io_vector;
msg.msg_iovlen = 1;
...

msg.msg_iov would be NULL with a memset. msg.msg_iovlen likely specifies
how many are in the msg.msg_iov array. Can the code be fixed to not cause
problems when msg.msg_iov is zero? At first blush, that would seem like a
simple fix to me. I assume that such a fix wouldn't break POSIX or some RFC.
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:59 AM Otto Moerbeek <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 02, 2017 at 12:29:05PM +0000, Luke Small wrote:
>
> > Maybe before it is sent, iov_len can be defaulted to 0 in the example,
> > since it'd take an initializer like in c++ to do it otherwise(wanna put
> c++
> > in the base! Lol). I assume it wouldn't try to read a zero length
> iov_base.
> > The problem may be that usually iov_len has a nonzero value, but the base
> > points to a bad location, when it isn't specified by the user program.
> > On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:05 AM Otto Moerbeek <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> msg is zero'd, so the iov data in fields are initialized.
>
>         -Otto
>
> >
> > > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 10:57:48AM +0000, Luke Small wrote:
> > >
> > > > Or put in the man page to "Google it!" Lol
> > > > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 5:33 AM Otto Moerbeek <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 12:50:46AM -0700, Philip Guenther wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 1 Apr 2017, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 01:20:25AM -0500, Luke Small wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here are two programs. They both fork two clients that try to
> > > connect
> > > > > > > > on port 'portno' that is listened to in main(). It spawns a
> > > receive
> > > > > > > > that receives passed file descriptors passed from main(). It
> > > passes a
> > > > > > > > file descriptor of the client connection to receive twice.
> > > > > > > > server_sample0.c uses the man page code. server_sample.c
> uses my
> > > > > > > > example. the former fails to pass the file descriptor on the
> > > second
> > > > > > > > try. the latter succeeds both times. I don't think you have
> any
> > > more
> > > > > > > > questions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, it took some effort to get this out of you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems that a problem exists indeed. It happens when the
> iovec
> > > data
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > not filled in, as the example uses. recv(2) only returns the
> > > number of
> > > > > > > bytes read from the iovec, so there seems to be some confusion
> > > about a
> > > > > > > failed read and a read of zero bytes. I'll check with the
> standard
> > > what
> > > > > > > is supposed to happen when only auciliary data is sent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, it's not a failed read: recvmsg() returns 0, not -1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed, my wording was wrong. Still, on the receving side, you
> like to
> > > > > dsitinguish beteen -1, 0 (EOF) and a real message, I suppose.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The issue is that in the kernel socket receive buffer, control
> > > messages
> > > > > > from a single send are always followed by a normal data buffer.
> In
> > > > > kernel
> > > > > > terms, an MT_CONTROL mbuf chain is always followed by an MT_DATA
> mbuf
> > > > > > chain...even when there's no data sent.  In that case, the
> MT_DATA
> > > mbuf
> > > > > > has length zero.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This works fine on the sending side, but when recvmsg() finishes
> > > with the
> > > > > > control messages and gets to the data buffer, it thinks it's
> done,
> > > as the
> > > > > > caller requested that nothing be copied out and it doesn't
> remove the
> > > > > > zero-length MT_DATA mbuf, leaving it at the head of the socket
> > > buffer.
> > > > > > Succeeding calls see no control messages at the start and then
> again
> > > do
> > > > > > nothing to the data buffer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note this is specific to SOCK_STREAM sockets: the boundary
> preserving
> > > > > > behavior of SOCK_DGRAM and SOCK_SEQPACKET mean it doesn't happen
> > > there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To avoid this, the application doesn't need to *send* any data,
> it
> > > just
> > > > > > needs to always accept at least one byte of data when calling
> > > recvmsg().
> > > > > > Even if there's no data there, that acceptance of more than zero
> > > bytes of
> > > > > > data will let recvmsg() peel off the zero-length MT_DATA mbuf
> from
> > > the
> > > > > > send.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess the questions then are
> > > > > > 1) is this a bug?  can it be fixed? and
> > > > > > 2) if not, should it be documented and where?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the latter, I'm not convinced the example code in
> CMSG_DATA(3) is
> > > the
> > > > > > place to do so.  If we deleted all the EXAMPLES sections from
> > > manpages
> > > > > > they should be merely more difficult to understand, not
> incomplete.
> > > More
> > > > > > importantly, this behavior isn't related to the CMSG_* macros at
> > > all, but
> > > > > > rather to recvmsg(2) itself.  Maybe a cavest there?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd say, it's a bug, but if it cannot be fixed for some reason,
> > > > > recvmsg(2) should document this *and* the example in CMSG_DATA(3)
> > > should
> > > > > show the proper use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >         -Otto
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > Relevant to this discussion (thangs jca@ fro pointing this out!) is
> > > this old thread:
> > > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=140008704815878&w=2
> > >
> > > The table in one of the messages (look at in raw mode) show that many
> > > operating systems have problems with this case.
> > >
> > > So a CAVEAT entry in recvmsg(2) and the example showing the portable
> > > way of doings things are still needed, whether the bug will be fixed in
> > > OpenBSD or not.
> > >
> > > As I read it, sendmsg(2) with no data is fine according to the
> standard:
> > >
> > > quote from http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/ :
> > >
> > >         The msg_iov and msg_iovlen fields of message specify zero or
> more
> > >         buffers containing the data to be sent. msg_iov points to an
> array
> > > of
> > >         iovec structures; msg_iovlen shall be set to the dimension of
> this
> > >         array. In each iovec structure, the iov_base field specifies a
> > > storage
> > >         area and the iov_len field gives its size in bytes. Some of
> these
> > >         sizes can be zero. The data from each storage area indicated by
> > >         msg_iov is sent in turn.
> > >
> > > Alas, the standard is not clear about a recvmsg(2) call with no data
> > > buffer space.
> > >
> > >         -Otto
> > >
>

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