On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 12:05:25PM +0200, Mark Kettenis wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 11:22:17 +0200
> > From: Claudio Jeker <cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com>
> > 
> > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 06:28:42PM +1000, Jonathan Matthew wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 07:55:03AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> > > > On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 08:07:11PM +0200, Sebastien Marie wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > I suppose the same could occurs with lld (untested for now).
> > > > > 
> > > > > I confirm it is the same problem with lld.
> > > > > 
> > > > > $ cd /usr/share/relink/kernel/GENERIC.MP
> > > > > $ ld -T ld.script -X --warn-common -nopie -o /tmp/newbsd *.o && echo 
> > > > > ok
> > > > > 
> > > > > /tmp: write failed, file system is full
> > > > > ok
> > > > > $ ls -l /tmp/newbsd
> > > > > -rwxr-xr-x  1 semarie  wheel  236434608 May 12 20:05 /tmp/newbsd*
> > > > > 
> > > > > And my dmesg has the following:
> > > > > uvn_flush: obj=0xfffffd86e3311608, offset=0x16b0000.  error during 
> > > > > pageout.
> > > > > uvn_flush: WARNING: changes to page may be lost!
> > > > 
> > > > So this code is using mmapped files for writing, which makes proper
> > > > error handling extremely difficult or even impossible. Best bet is
> > > > making sure enough space is available before starting. 
> > > 
> > > lld has a --no-mmap-output-file option that causes it to use plain 
> > > write(2)
> > > calls to generate the output file. Perhaps it'd be worth using that for
> > > kernel linking and other stuff we relink at boot time?
> >  
> > Maybe that should be the default. Having lld produce bad binaries but exit
> > 0 is just very wrong. Not sure if this a problem that only manifests on
> > OpenBSD since there is no unified buffer cache or if other systems would
> > hit the same issue as well. As Otto mentioned detection IO errors when
> > using mmap to write files is not trivial.
> 
> I think the same problem exists on other OSes, even those with a
> unified buffer cache.  I suppose lld(1) could use msync(2) (with the
> MS_SYNC) flag to make sure everything lands on disk correctly.  But
> that obviously would remove some of the benefits of using mmap(),
> namely the async completion of the writes.
> 
> It would be intersting to see what the impact on build times of
> changing the defaults would be.  But I'm somewhat hesitant to change
> the default since the --no-mmap-output-file code path isn't tested
> much on other OSes.

The code path difference is pretty small, it's entirely within
src/gnu/llvm/llvm/lib/Support/FileOutputBuffer.cpp, which is under 200 lines.
Everything outside that just sees the address of a memory buffer to write to.
There are some cases where the mmap code falls back to the non-mmap path,
but I agree it's probably not well tested.

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