see http://weblogs.java.net/blog/chet/archive/2007/05/consumer_jre_le.html for 
more information.

- Alex

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> 1. Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms? (Florian Weimer)
> 2. Re: JDK GNU/Linux SPARC and MIPS (Christian Thalinger)
> 3. Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms? (Jonathan Springer)
> 4. Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms? (Tim Bell)
> 5. Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms? (Jonathan Springer)
> 6. Re: Java 6: Java kernel available? (Phil Race)
> 7. Re: Java 6: Java kernel available? (Phil Race)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:24:05 +0200
> From: Florian Weimer <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms?
> To: Jonathan Springer <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
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> * Jonathan Springer:
> 
> > We have been working on an OpenJDK MIPS port, but it's difficult to
> > produce a version that works fully due to the remaining missing pieces
> > (in b18, libdcpr.so, libjsound.so, and libjsoundalso.so). I know that
> > work is in progress to create open replacements for these pieces (and
> > thanks for the work to remove libt2k already), but would it be
> > possible in the meantime to get binary versions of these libraries,
> > analogous to the binary plug versions that exist for other platforms?
> 
> Couldn't you base your work on the IcedTea effort? It should give you
> a fairly complete variant of OpenJDK on any GCJ-supported platform,
> provided that you've successfully ported the Hotspot VM.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:32:53 +0200
> From: Christian Thalinger <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: JDK GNU/Linux SPARC and MIPS
> To: Sunil Amitkumar Janki <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 14:56 +0200, Sunil Amitkumar Janki wrote:
> > I have GNU/Linux running on x86, MIPS and SPARC but only
> > x86 has an up to date JDK. For MIPS I have JDK 1.5.0 and
> > for SPARC Blackdown's JDK 1.4.1.
> > 
> > I would like to see support for both architectures integrated
> > into the JDK sources alongside x86, x86_64 and Solaris SPARC
> > so all systems can benefit from up to date Java installations.
> > 
> > Could someone point out to me what I'd have to do to get
> > the latest JDK up and running and support for it integrated
> > into mainline sources?
> 
> Well, you could port HotSpot or join us, in whatever way, in the IcedTea
> project where we try to get OpenJDK running on non-HotSpot platforms.
> 
> - twisti
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:14:49 -0500
> From: Jonathan Springer <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms?
> To: Florian Weimer <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Florian Weimer wrote:
> 
> > * Jonathan Springer:
> > 
> >>We have been working on an OpenJDK MIPS port, but it's difficult to
> >>produce a version that works fully due to the remaining missing pieces
> >>(in b18, libdcpr.so, libjsound.so, and libjsoundalso.so). I know that
> >>work is in progress to create open replacements for these pieces (and
> >>thanks for the work to remove libt2k already), but would it be
> >>possible in the meantime to get binary versions of these libraries,
> >>analogous to the binary plug versions that exist for other platforms?
> > 
> > Couldn't you base your work on the IcedTea effort? It should give you
> > a fairly complete variant of OpenJDK on any GCJ-supported platform,
> > provided that you've successfully ported the Hotspot VM.
> 
> I wasn't aware that IcedTea had replacements for these closed libraries 
> (listed above), 
> which are referenced by some elements of the class library. However, I just 
> went to the 
> wiki to check, and it sounds like you've stubbed out sound (libjsound, 
> libjsoundalsa) and 
> maybe reimplemented around libdcpr. I guess I should take a closer look -- 
> thanks for the 
> idea.
> 
> One issue for use of IcedTea is that we are on Gentoo, though I see now the 
> FAQ talks 
> about how to get that to work (build a custom libgcj). It's just a question 
> of what is 
> least painful.
> 
> I'm still interested in getting simple binaries of the originals, since that 
> would be most 
> expedient.
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Springer |
> Reservoir Labs, Inc. | http://www.reservoir.com/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:29:42 -0700
> From: Tim Bell <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms?
> To: Jonathan Springer <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Jonathan Springer wrote:
> 
> > We could actually do the work of building them ourselves; we'd just need 
> > a copy of the code with an appropriate license from Sun, or some other 
> > similar agreement.
> 
> If you can work within the terms of the Java Research License (JRL),
> the code is available here:
> 
> https://jdk-jrl-sources.dev.java.net/
> 
> > If Sun has access to a Linux MIPS machine and could generate it that would
> > be great too, of course, but I'm expecting not.
> 
> Sorry - as far as I know we don't have MIPS anything in our labs.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:11:53 -0500
> From: Jonathan Springer <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Binary plugs for non-supported platforms?
> To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Tim Bell wrote:
> 
> > Jonathan Springer wrote:
> > 
> >> We could actually do the work of building them ourselves; we'd just 
> >> need a copy of the code with an appropriate license from Sun, or some 
> >> other similar agreement.
> > 
> > If you can work within the terms of the Java Research License (JRL),
> > the code is available here:
> > 
> > https://jdk-jrl-sources.dev.java.net/
> 
> Thanks -- it might be ok (for now), but I was concerned it might not be and 
> preferred to 
> avoid having to deal with that issue.
> 
> The IcedTea workarounds may work for us.
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Springer |
> Reservoir Labs, Inc. | http://www.reservoir.com/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:40:27 -0700
> From: Phil Race <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> To: Ted Neward <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8
> 
> The Java Kernel is an installation technology. Its not part of the OpenJDK 
> sources.
> i.e it doesn't (SFAIK) touch anything in the JDK source tree, so you won't see
> any changes there.
> 
> -phil.
> 
> Ted Neward wrote:
> > True, but I was worried that Googling "Java kernel" would yield up tons of 
> > old JavaOS and JavaCPU pages. :-)
> > 
> > Still, I wonder about this componentization of the JRE that Chet's alluding 
> > to--where is this work taking place, and is it being reflected in what we 
> > see in the OpenJDK builds? I'm curious to see how it's progressing (and 
> > potentially affecting the JVM as a whole...).
> > 
> > Ted Neward
> > Java, .NET, XML Services
> > Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> > http://www.tedneward.com
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Volker Simonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:46 AM
> >> To: Ted Neward
> >> Cc: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
> >> Subject: Re: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> >>
> >> google is your friend :)
> >>
> >> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/enicholas/archive/2006/09/java_browser_ed.
> >> html
> >>
> >> On 8/23/07, Ted Neward <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Here's a dumb question: what's Java kernel?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ted Neward
> >>>
> >>> Java, .NET, XML Services
> >>>
> >>> Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> >>>
> >>> http://www.tedneward.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:24 AM
> >>> To: mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
> >>> Subject: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> i am not sure about this but there was a tiny blog today stating that
> >> Java
> >>> kernel is ready for production and to be released with Java 6u4
> >> update?
> >>> Anyone a prooven information about this?
> >>>
> >>> If its right then i think this is pretty cool.
> >>>
> >>> - Best Alex
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date:
> >> 8/21/2007
> >>> 4:02 PM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date:
> >> 8/21/2007
> >>> 4:02 PM
> >>>
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date:
> >> 8/21/2007 4:02 PM
> >>
> > 
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
> > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.6/971 - Release Date: 8/24/2007 
> > 2:59 PM
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:22:13 -0700
> From: Phil Race <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> To: Ted Neward <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Message-ID: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8
> 
> PS it was pointed out to me that there may be some changes in
> the hotspot source tree for kernel to address classloading and
> library loading but I don't know anything about hotspot internals
> so can't be more specific.
> 
> -phil.
> 
> Phil Race wrote:
> > The Java Kernel is an installation technology. Its not part of the 
> > OpenJDK sources.
> > i.e it doesn't (SFAIK) touch anything in the JDK source tree, so you 
> > won't see
> > any changes there.
> > 
> > -phil.
> > 
> > Ted Neward wrote:
> >> True, but I was worried that Googling "Java kernel" would yield up 
> >> tons of old JavaOS and JavaCPU pages. :-)
> >>
> >> Still, I wonder about this componentization of the JRE that Chet's 
> >> alluding to--where is this work taking place, and is it being 
> >> reflected in what we see in the OpenJDK builds? I'm curious to see how 
> >> it's progressing (and potentially affecting the JVM as a whole...).
> >>
> >> Ted Neward
> >> Java, .NET, XML Services
> >> Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> >> http://www.tedneward.com
> >> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Volker Simonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:46 AM
> >>> To: Ted Neward
> >>> Cc: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
> >>> Subject: Re: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> >>>
> >>> google is your friend :)
> >>>
> >>> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/enicholas/archive/2006/09/java_browser_ed.
> >>> html
> >>>
> >>> On 8/23/07, Ted Neward <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's a dumb question: what's Java kernel?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ted Neward
> >>>>
> >>>> Java, .NET, XML Services
> >>>>
> >>>> Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.tedneward.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >>>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:24 AM
> >>>> To: mailto:build-dev@openjdk.java.net
> >>>> Subject: Java 6: Java kernel available?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> i am not sure about this but there was a tiny blog today stating that
> >>> Java
> >>>> kernel is ready for production and to be released with Java 6u4
> >>> update?
> >>>> Anyone a prooven information about this?
> >>>>
> >>>> If its right then i think this is pretty cool.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Best Alex
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>>> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date:
> >>> 8/21/2007
> >>>> 4:02 PM
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>>> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date:
> >>> 8/21/2007
> >>>> 4:02 PM
> >>>>
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>> Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date:
> >>> 8/21/2007 4:02 PM
> >>>
> >>
> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 
> >> 269.12.6/971 - Release Date: 8/24/2007 2:59 PM
> >> 
> >>
> 
> 
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