On 8 June 2010 09:26, Dalibor Topic <dalibor.to...@sun.com> wrote: > cowwoc wrote: >> There's no good reason for Windows builds to be this difficult... > > One of the major good reasons, in my personal, biased opinion, > is that Windows, contrary to Linux or OpenSolaris, lacks a central > software repository with all the necessary dependencies for a > build that would make a 'standard' developer setup as trivial as > it is on other, friendlier operating systems. >
It also lacks a basic shell and tools by default, which is why you need Cygwin to at least get you close to a normal UNIX environment. It would surprise me if anyone could do development on a Windows machine outside an IDE without Cygwin. I've not looked at OpenCV but I would guess that's it's a pretty normal library, and not on the scale of OpenJDK. OpenJDK is a PITA to build on a GNU/Linux system at times and those issues are only going to be exacerbated on Windows. This seems to be common with ex-proprietary codebases; I remember having major issues building Firefox back in the day, and some of the worst build systems I can think of other than OpenJDK are OpenOffice and Chromium... >> Have you looked at using cmake instead of cygwin? > > Cygwin is a 'Linux'-y environment for Windows. Cmake is a build > system. They are not necessarily interchangeable. If you took on the daunting task of rewriting all those Makefiles using Cmake, you'd still need the same tools underneath. If the experience with Ant is anything to go by, it would actually make things worse, as you bring in additional dependencies for CMake. CMake is becoming common for a few GNU/Linux codebases and I've noticed one annoying thing about it is that it gives very little diagnostic output (at least in the way it seems to be commonly configured). > > cheers, > dalibor topic > -- > ******************************************************************* > Dalibor Topic Tel: (+49 40) 23 646 738 > Java F/OSS Ambassador AIM: robiladonaim > Sun Microsystems GmbH Mobile: (+49 177) 2664 192 > Nagelsweg 55 http://openjdk.java.net > D-20097 Hamburg mailto:dalibor.to...@sun.com > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Sonnenallee 1, D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten > Amtsgericht München: HRB 161028 > Geschäftsführer: Jürgen Kunz > > > -- Andrew :-) Free Java Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com) Support Free Java! Contribute to GNU Classpath and the OpenJDK http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath http://openjdk.java.net PGP Key: 94EFD9D8 (http://subkeys.pgp.net) Fingerprint: F8EF F1EA 401E 2E60 15FA 7927 142C 2591 94EF D9D8
