On May 3, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Keith McGuigan wrote:

> 
> On May 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Kelly O'Hair wrote:
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>> I was going to say that building hotspot does NOT require a Boot JDK to 
>> build, but I would be wrong, it does,
>> but I agree, it probably should not. As I recall, there is some XML 
>> processing, the stupid gamma launcher Queens use,
> 
> Whoops... little typo here.  Shouldn't say "stupid gamma launcher", it should 
> be, "incredibly-useful-for-debugging-the-JVM gamma launcher".  Easy mistake 
> to make, though:  the keys are, like, right next to each other.  :)

No doubt it's been useful, but seriously, you just built a hotspot for jdk7, 
with a completely different
C++ compiler, and a different C++ runtime dependency, and you plop it down into 
a jdk6 image (that
was built with a different C++ compiler, and maybe using a different C++ 
runtime) and you guys'
expect it to work reliably? It doesn't, and likely won't run in a cross compile 
environment at all.
At a minimum, you should be plopping it into a jdk7 image, a jdk7 image built 
for the target arch you
are building and can run, and when it comes down to it, isn't this actually a 
"test" of your build?

The number of issues with that gamma/Queens makefile logic is too high, and 
it's not something we ship
anyway. In my opinion, we should be restricting ourselves to building what we 
ship as part of the product,
or what we need to make that build happen.
So in my opinion, the whole thing needs to be moved to the hotspot/test area.

In addition, the gamma launcher code is riddled with troublesome/buggy code 
that gets little attention, mostly
because it isn't shipped as part of the product. If you guys want this code as 
part of the build, it needs
some attention. If it is just a test case, then isolate it and make it one.

We need to do a better job of separating out the building logic from the 
testing logic.

Just my 2 cents... ;^)

-kto

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