I know 5-10 Hotspot developers who uses Visual Studio (me included) so I hope it's not something that is going away.

Erik

Staffan Larsen skrev 2013-11-26 20:10:
I am in full agreement with you that an IDE is a very powerful tool and I much 
prefer to work in an IDE than outside one. However, I do not do my day-to-day 
work on Windows (anymore - I used to). I don’t know how developers on Windows 
manage their work.

/Staffan

On 26 nov 2013, at 18:34, Francis ANDRE <francis.andre.kampb...@orange.fr> 
wrote:

Hi Staffan
Le 25/11/2013 08:53, Staffan Larsen a écrit :

The top level make produces a full jdk here    : 
Z:\JDK\jdk8\build\windows-x86-normal-server-release\images\j2sdk-image
The hotspot make produces a full jdk here     : 
Z:\JDK\jdk8\hotspot\build\windows\jdk-windows-i586
The hotspot create.bat produces a JVM here: 
Z:\JDK\jdk8\hotspot\build\vs-i486\compiler1

create.bat has only one parameter: the bootstrap jdk and thus does not take 
into account the configure-based top-level files. Moreover when using an 
official public jdk7 release as the jdk1.7.0_45 as the bootstrap jdk of jdk8, 
the produced jvm.vxproj does not work as the changeset associated with the JDK 
8016019 are not back ported to the jdk1.7.0_45 release. So I am wondering what 
specific parameters hotspot developers are using to test their changes under 
WXP/W7 for the jdk8 hotspot?
The visual studio projects are not the official way to build hotspot. They are 
provided as a nice-to-have feature that developers on windows maintain. The 
official way to build on all platforms is to use the makefiles.
Staffan, while the official way to build on all platforms is to use the 
makefiles, it does not make sense when talking about debugging, testing and 
developing a major, large, multi layered C++ application like hotspot.

To make it short, VisualStudio C++ is to c++ what Netbeans or Eclipse are for 
Java, a mandatory  powerful IDE for developping large and complex application. 
Can you image to code, develop, debug, test a multi-threaded java application 
fo 250 kilo lines without Netbeans, just with vi, makefiles and some additional 
tools... I do not think so... So, it is the same for hotspot on WXP/W7!

Thus, if as I understand well, WXP/W7/ X86/X64 are strategic platfoms for Oracle in 
providing a fully certified and supported Java environment, then the nice-to-have feature 
is not at level of the mission. The generation of the jvm.vxproj cannot be a second level 
citizen but should be as good as the generation of the jdk, fully maintained and 
integrated as new features, way fo building "the new build system" and so on 
are added, modified or deleted....

Francis

/Staffan



Francis
David
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Francis
the jdk8 build system, but what is the old one?

Francis

Le 18/11/2013 19:02, Magnus Ihse Bursie a écrit :
So, finally it has happened. The old build system is now removed.
The patch was just submitted to the tl forest, from where it will
move to master in a few days.

If you have personal scripts that are using hard-coded makefile
references, you might need to update them.

Thanks to everyone who helped this major project become reality:
Fredrik, Erik, Kelly, Tim, Jonas, ...

/Magnus

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