This thread brings up the question ... when are we going to switch to JDK 9 as the required boot JDK? Is there any compelling reason to -not- upgrade yet?

-- Jon


On 10/3/17 1:37 PM, Magnus Ihse Bursie wrote:
It might be the case that we should not really continue with this as long as we have JDK 8 as default boot jdk.

If so, we should at least add a -Xshare:auto, which will allow the user to manually add a system-wide CDS archive to their boot jdk, and benefit from it.

And then we'll revisit this when we switch to JDK 9, to see if "-XX:-VerifySharedSpaces -XX:SharedArchiveFile=x" is worth the effort.

Sounds reasonable?

/Magnus


On 2017-10-03 16:45, Erik Joelsson wrote:
The change looks good, but unfortunately I don't see a lot of gain. First of all it seems the -XX:SharedArchiveFile option removes a lot of the performance gain. Here are some rough numbers from my machine. All of them are "time make images" with a clean build directory, on a 16 core/32 threads linux box. In some cases I did two runs, which further shows the amount of variance in the build time.

Baseline: boot jdk 8, no cds
real    3m14.688s
user    38m34.132s
sys    5m4.032s

real    3m11.086s
user    38m16.820s
sys    4m35.344s

Magnus second patch: boot jdk 8, cds SharedArchiveFile
real    3m6.268s
user    38m9.168s
sys    4m13.392s

real    3m15.985s
user    37m55.328s
sys    3m50.140s

Magnus first patch: boot jdk 8, cds in classes.jsa
real    2m55.972s
user    37m59.636s
sys    4m1.020s

Baseline with boot jdk 9, no cds
real    3m14.262s
user    40m9.216s
sys    5m5.480s

Magnus first patch: boot jdk 9, cds in classes.jsa
real    3m12.721s
user    39m29.332s
sys    4m25.472s

Magnus second patch: boot jdk 9, -XX:SharedArchiveFile, -XX:-VerifySharedSpaces
real    3m4.297s
user    39m24.556s
sys    4m31.980s

So from this (certainly limited) data set, the only configuration that shows meaningful improvement is with boot jdk 8 and the first patch, where we stealth add classes.jsa to the boot jdk. I find this a very bad thing to do in principle so would vote against such a solution anyway. Also note that we will switch default boot from 8 to 9 very soon, so it's really the results on 9 that are relevant here. In 9, there is another option, -XX:-VerifySharedSpaces which removes most of the overhead added by -XX:SharedArchiveFile. Perhaps using that this becomes worth while.

I would like to see more data showing the optimization is actually relevant. On my machine it seems to make a measurable difference, but not a very significant one.

One note on the proposed change. While working on this, when I changed my boot jdk, configure did not regenerate the classes.jsa file. I believe for safety we should regenerate on every configure run. It's not that expensive anyway.

/Erik


On 2017-10-03 14:55, David Holmes wrote:
Looks good to me.

Thanks,
David

On 3/10/2017 10:47 PM, Magnus Ihse Bursie wrote:
On 2017-10-03 14:21, David Holmes wrote:
Erik J. raises a good point in the bug report that -XX:SharedArchiveFile=xxx should be used if we create the archive. The build system has no business creating an archive inside the boot JDK.

Agree, that is a better solution. I was not aware of the -XX:SharedArchiveFile option.

Here's an updated webrev:
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ihse/JDK-8188312-use-CDS-for-bootjdk/webrev.02

I create the jsa file in configure-support, that way it can survive a "make clean".

/Magnus


David

On 3/10/2017 9:02 PM, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Claes,

On 3/10/2017 8:48 PM, Claes Redestad wrote:
Hi,

-Xshare:auto silently ignores failures to map the shared archive and should be safe to use. I think you're thinking of -Xshare:on which will fail/abort the VM if mapping fails.

Ah okay.

In that case seems reasonable. But please test thoroughly across all platforms in JPRT.

Thanks,
David

/Claes


On 2017-10-03 12:28, David Holmes wrote:
Hi Magnus,

As I just put in the bug report, it isn't quite this simple. You have to be able to tolerate/recover from failure to map the shared archive.

Cheers,
David

On 3/10/2017 8:24 PM, Magnus Ihse Bursie wrote:
We should use CDS to minimize Java startup time during build. We run multiple Java commands, and every second counts.

On my machine, I get a ~3% build time speedup with this fix.

Bug: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8188312
WebRev: http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ihse/JDK-8188312-use-CDS-for-bootjdk/webrev.01

/Magnus





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