On 9/06/2018 7:50 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote:
On 2018-06-07 17:30, David Holmes wrote:
On 8/06/2018 6:11 AM, Erik Joelsson wrote:
I just don't think the extra work is warranted or should be prioritized at this point. I also cannot think of a combination of options required for what you are suggesting that wouldn't be confusing to the user. If someone truly feels like these flags are forced on them and can't live with them, we or preferably that person can fix it then. I don't think that's dictatorship. OpenJDK is still open source and anyone can contribute.

I don't see why --enable-hardened-jdk and --enable-hardened-hotspot to add to the right flags would be either complicated or confusing.

For me the confusion surrounds the difference between --enable-hardened-hotspot and --with-jvm-variants=server, hardened and

That's the problem: "hardened" is not a jvm-variant as we have always defined that! "hardened" is a variation in the same way as product vs fastdebug versus slow-debug versus (the old) optimized. It is _not_ at all the same kind of thing as server versus client versus zero etc. The desire to ship "hardened" in the same image as non-hardened is what is causing the semantic conflict here. It is like shipping a product and debug VM together. Sure you can do it, but that's not how we've categorised things in the past.

I understand the need to make things work this way, so in that sense selecting jvm-variant=hardened should be seen as specifying "--enable-hardened-hotspot --enable-hardened-jdk". But jvm-variant=hardened is really jvm-variant=hardened-server.

making the user understand it. But sure, it is doable. Here is a new webrev with those two options as I interpret them. Here is the help text:

  --enable-hardened-jdk   enable hardenening compiler flags for all jdk
                           libraries (except the JVM), typically disabling
                           speculative cti. [disabled]
  --enable-hardened-hotspot
                          enable hardenening compiler flags for hotspot (all                           jvm variants), typically disabling speculative cti.
                           To make hardening of hotspot a runtime choice,
                          consider the "hardened" jvm variant instead of this
                           option. [disabled]

Note that this changes the default for jdk libraries to not enable hardening unless the user requests it.

That's your call. I don't care what the default is as long as the developer has control over it.

Thanks,
David

Webrev: http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~erikj/8202384/webrev.04/

/Erik

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