On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Alex Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Charter by triangulation: > > "... that the Apache Buildr project be responsible for the creation and > maintenance of build system, software configuration and software lifecycle > management related tools." > I would say the net is too wide. Maven, Ant, Make or Rake could all qualify. A bit of overlap is not necessarily a problem but that would be a complete overlap. I'd look for something a bit more discriminating with wordings like scripting based, multi-language or dependency management. Ant has its resolution on its web site and I fished the Maven one from what feels like another century, when the board meetings where much shorter than now: http://ant.apache.org/mission.html http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2003/board_minutes_2003_02_26.txt IMO they're both very good examples of what we shouldn't do :) Both reflect an older time when the foundation was much smaller, we should know better now. Matthieu > alex > > PS: I don't like the definitions of SCM and SLM in wikipedia. They sound > like they were written by vendors with a very narrow vision. You could > say > SLM has almost become a euphemism for Enterprise Grade DRM <tm>. > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > So it seems that everybody agrees it's time to get ready for graduation. > > There's a nice guide that details the whole process here: > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > > > > The trickiest part is to prepare a resolution for the board to adopt. > > Ultimately, that's what we will vote on, what the incubator PMC will vote > > on > > and what the board adopts. And the trickiest parts in the resolution > itself > > are: > > > > - The target: Top Level Project or subproject of another TLP. For > buildr > > I think it would be TLP but if someone things otherwise it's a good > time > > to > > mention it. > > - The charter: this should define the scope of the project. It should > be > > short, sweet and non ambiguous but sufficiently large in scope to cover > > further expansion of the project. So getting the proper wording can be > > tough. There are example here [1] and if you want more I can point you > to > > others. > > - The project chair: I'll send another e-mail about that. > > - The future PMC: actually that's the easiest, it's usually the same > > composition as the PPMC. > > > > So at this point, it would be nice if someone drafted a first charter > > paragraph so we can increment from it. The rest of the resolution can > > easily > > be created using the charter and a few names. > > > > Thanks, > > Matthieu > > > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-resolution > > >