In this case it would appear that the data being exchanged is PHI, the
disclosure of which should most likely be authorized by the
individual....unless the TPA is providing the enrollment information on
behalf of its business associate - the covered entity - and the information
exchange is part of the covered entity's treatment, payment or health care
operations functions. Such TPO activities constitute at least 90-95 of a
provider's activities and probably somewhat less for a payer.

Thus, again, the data is PHI and must be appropriately safeguarded and kept
confidential, but no specific HIPAA transaction is mandated for the
information exchange.

Rachel Foerster
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
Phone: 847-872-8070


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Mingee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: HIPAA EDI



What if a MGU is not involved and a TPA is sending enrollment or claim
related information directly to a carrier for Stop/Loss reimbursement?

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: HIPAA EDI


Steve,

>From your description of your company I doubt that HIPAA applies to it. It
doesn't appear to be a health plan, clearinghouse, or health care provider.
Thus, it would be my opinion that the format, etc. used by your company
would be one based on mutual agreement between you and whoever you're
exchanging the data with.

Rachel Foerster
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
Phone: 847-872-8070


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HIPAA EDI


So if I understand what everyone is saying correctly:

[1] your business must have HIPAA EDI capability ready for any requests
that may occur.  That is required although you may not be required to use
it (Carriers, providers, etc. may have you continue to use paper, etc.).

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I as mentioned earlier my situation is interesting:
I work for an MGU (Managing General Underwriter) in the Self-Insured
market.  We work with TPAs, Brokers and Carriers but not directly to any
health organization nor hospital.   Currently our Carriers have no plans
nor requirements for us for HIPAA EDI.   Most of our TPAs and Brokers also
have no plans as of this time.

We are working on building up our EDI capabilities ... but if we build it
will it be used?!?!  With this HIPAA mandate we were ready to move forward
but if the people we are communicating with are not we are put in a catch
22 situation with compliancy.

Sincerely,

Steve Sklar
IT Manager
Majestic Underwriters, Inc.
Troy, Michigan
(p) 248.583.4488  x246


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