Here is my opinion.
The PHI is the patient's.  All covered entities are required to keep it for
6 years minimum.  I think that means that the provider keeps it and the
payer must keep it.  A clearing house would keep it based on their
relationship (BA)to the entity paying the bill (probably the provider). 

In your example the provider is responsible for accounting for access to the
PHI for a minimum of 6 years.  If they want it destroyed and they are paying
for your services they I would destroy it.

Also there are several places in the rule that have different requirements
for clearing houses depending upon their role as a clearing house or a
business associate.
Here is an excerpt from the comments (See the last sentence):
   
 "The revised language provides that clearinghouses are not subject
to certain requirements in the rule when acting as business associates
of other covered entities. As revised, a clearinghouse acting as a
business associate is subject only to the provisions of this section,
to the definitions, to the general rules for uses and disclosures of
protected health information (subject to limitations), to the provision
relating to health care components, to the provisions relating to uses
and disclosures for which consent, individual authorization or an
opportunity to agree or object is not required (subject to
limitations), to the transition requirements and to the compliance
date. With respect to the uses and disclosures authorized under
Sec. 164.502 or Sec. 164.512, a clearinghouse acting as a business
associate is not authorized by the rule to make any use or disclosure
not permitted by its business associate contract. Clearinghouses acting
as business associates are not subject to the other requirements of
this rule, which include the provisions relating to procedural
requirements, requirements for obtaining consent, individual
authorization or agreement, provision of a notice, individual rights to
request privacy protection, access and amend information and receive an
accounting of disclosures and the administrative requirements."

Hope that helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ronde, Suzanne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 6:17 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: TCS/Privacy: Whose Data Is It???


Does anyone on here have an opinion about the following situation?

In discussions with various individuals, there's a gray area in regards to
who's data is it and at one point in regards to Protected Health Information
(PHI) and so forth.  Here's a situation we're looking at.
As a clearinghouse, we are a Covered Entity (CE).  We are also a Business
Associate (BA)  to providers and some health plans, otherwise a trading
partner (TP) to other health plans.  Our dilemma is this:  Under the Privacy
provisions, to many extents our business of being a Clearinghouse would
enact that we would need to follow CE items.  From my understanding, covered
entities hold onto PHI for a minimum of 6 years in case of a request for
access (164.524), but if we are acting as a BA to the provider, would we be
held responsible to hold that data for the 6 period?  If so, I am assuming
since we are doing this as a service, a reasonable charge can be associated
with this.  Also within the Privacy regulations (164.504) as a BA to
entities, they have the ability upon termination of a contract, request for
return of PHI or Destruction of the PHI if feasible.
So here are my questions:
1       Whose PHI is it at what point that they can ask for destruction or
return if the contract is terminated?  Is it the provider's until they
submit the claims to a health plan and then becomes the health plan's after
the submission?  If so, can we destroy that information if it is now the
health plan's when it is a provider who terminates the contract?  Would this
be considered one of the "not feasible" situations?  What if the health plan
who was once a BA now terminates the agreement?  Same kind of quandary
there.
2       If we are able to destroy or return the data, I can not find
anywhere in the regulations of who covers the cost of returning or
destroying the PHI.  Can the provider or health plan be charged a reasonable
fee for such work?  There is a section that discusses assessing a reasonable
fee to access any PHI.

If anyone has an opinion or can shed some light on this subject it would be
great appreciated.


Thank you in advance.


Suzanne Ronde
Proservices Health Information Technology
HIPAA Project Manager


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