Subj:   Re: Question on Standard 270 / 271, Direct Data Entry and The EqualT 
reatment...
Date:   2/18/2002 8:41:17 PM Central Standard Time
From:   <A HREF="mailto:PETERBARRY";>PETERBARRY</A>
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Dear Manoj Kumar:

There is a general rule that, if HIPAA has defined a standard for the 
transaction being conducted by a covered entity, the standard must be used.  
The definition of a standard transaction includes purpose, and in many cases, 
who the sender is and who the receiver is.  A standard transaction specifies 
both format and data content.

The general rule allows a covered entity to employ another organization 
called a business associate to act on its behalf for purposes of conducting 
the transaction.  If a transaction flows through a business associate and on 
one side or the other the transaction does not conform to standard format and 
data content, then the business associate is a clearinghouse.  It must 
conform fully to standard on the other side, except if the clearinghouse is 
acting for both the sender and receiver, the transaction can be nonstandard 
on both sides so long as it exists in the middle, even for a moment, in 
standard format and data content.

The general rule allows for a direct data entry exception.  Under the 
exception, the data content of the transaction must conform to standard but 
the exception gives relief from conforming to the format of the standard.  

To qualify for the DDE exception, the health plan (or its business associate) 
must operate a server (which could be a IP server, a CICS mainframe server, 
or similar) and the provider connects to it using key-entry through a browser 
or dumb terminal.  But if the provider enters data into its own computer (or 
its business associate's computer) and that computer interfaces with the 
health plan's server, then the arrangement is not operating under the DDE 
exception and so it is not relieved of the X12 or NCPDP format requirement.

In your message you included the following:

>  I was under the impression that only EDI transactions have to be format
>  compliant. I thought that XML format should just be HIPAA compliant as far
>  as data is concerned and not format compliant.

Whether an arrangement uses XML, HTML, 3270-screen image, field-by-field 
display/accept, or any other technology is completely irrelevant to meeting 
the conditions that permit the DDE exception.  The  conditions for the DDE 
exception are defined only in terms of health plan server and provider user 
or client as described above.

I would like to suggest that you download the SNIP Impact on DDE Services 
paper, version 1.0, dated July 31, 2001, if you have not already done so.  I 
do not completely understand the arrangement you are describing.  You might 
look over the scenarios 4.2 to 4.4 in that paper.  I would be interested 
whose business associate, the provider's or the plan's, is in the middle in 
your scenario.  Let me know your thinking.  Thanks for writing.

Peter

Peter Barry
Peter T Barry Company
Ozaukee Bank Building
1425 West Mequon Road
Mequon Wisconsin 53092
(414) 732 5000 (national cell)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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In a message dated 2/18/2002 7:41:51 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Subj:  Question on Standard 270 / 271, Direct Data Entry and The EqualT 
> reatment Rules
>  Date:    2/18/2002 7:41:51 PM Central Standard Time
>  From:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MANOJCOM)
>  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
>  Hi! Peter/Kristin,
>  
>  I was reading your article posted under 
>  http://snip.wedi.org/public/articles/270-271_DDE_&_Eq_Treatment_Rule.pdf
>  on Standard 270 / 271, Direct Data Entry and The Equal Treatment Rules.
>  
>  One paragraph that interested me was on Page 6,
>  
>  Item 8.4 Computer simulated data entry not permitted though DDE.
>  
>  "If the sender is using his or her browser to directly enter
>  information onto a server that is part of the receiver's system , then it 
is
>  considered a direct data entry transaction, which need only meet the data
>  content and data condition requirements. If, however, the data are being
>  entered onto a server which is then repackaging the information to be sent
>  to the receiver's system, that is considered a transaction which must be
>  sent to the receiver meeting the data format requirements as well."
>  
>  We have a scenario something similar to this but we are using XML 
transfers.
>  
>  Our dataentry screens are with a thrid party. They capture the data and 
> based on the Payor converts to XML and sends us the transaction. We process 
> it and send them back the XML document which they break up and show on the 
> respective response JSP.
>  
>  We are getting ready to be HIPAA data compliant, but not format compliant 
> since it is XMLed.
>  
>  I was under the impression that only EDI transactions have to be format
>  compliant. I thought that XML format should just be HIPAA compliant as far
>  as data is concerned and not format compliant.
>  
>  Can you clarify with me on this please. 
>  
>  I really appreciate your help and Thank You in advance.
>  
>  regards
>  
>  Manoj Kumar

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