Rachel: 
 
I agree with what you said about provider consents (ignoring the new NPRM for the moment), but I'm not sure of the point you're making.  The original question related to disclosures by health plans, not providers.
 

Patricia I. Carter, J.D.
Gray, Plant, Mooty, Mooty & Bennett, P.A.
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Minneapolis, MN 55402
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Patricia,
 
I'm not an attorney, but I believe that consent is required by all direct treating providers to use and disclose protected health information for treatment, payment or operations. This consent is a one-time event and good until/unless revoked by the individual.
 
Other than that, I would agree that this consent would cover the subrogation issue.
 
Rachel

Rachel Foerster
Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
Phone: 847-872-8070

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Subrogation is part of "payment," and as TPO would not generally be subject to the authorization requirements, but rather to the consent requirements (and a health plan need not -- even before the NPRM-- get consent for TPO uses and disclosures.)
 
 
Patricia I. Carter, J.D.
Gray, Plant, Mooty, Mooty & Bennett, P.A.
3400 City Center
33 South Sixth Street
Minneapolis, MN 55402
Phone: 612-335-7867
Fax: 612-333-0066
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Cc: Kathleen Golovan
Subject: Health Insurance Companies getting Disclosure Authorization to Subrogate with Auto Insurance Co.



Hi All,
 
  Have any of the payers on the list confronted the problem of how health plans getting Disclosure Authorization to subrogate claims with auto/property/casualty/hazard insurance companies...  For example, because the auto insurer is not a CE nor a BA how can the Health Plan share PHI with the auto insurer when it is looking for them to subrogate the claim. Getting authorization from the member is going to be hard because they have no motivation to provide it and may actually have a disincentive to do so because they do not want their auto insurance rates to go up. The auto co won't subrogate without the information.
 
  Tips on where to go to get guidance or thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated....
 
 
 
 
Jim Moores - HIPAA Team Leader - Privacy
Antares Management Solutions
23700 Commerce Park Road
Beachwood, Ohio   44122-5832
 
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