Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20220905124655.m6q1h%[email protected]>: |Denys Vlasenko wrote in | <CAK1hOcO5whb+rKErS-taZLA+_b6Fqu=D_eyPBWzO=h3=vwh...@mail.gmail.com>: ||On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 1:35 AM Steffen Nurpmeso <[email protected]> \ ||wrote: ||> ||> Denys Vlasenko wrote in ||> <cak1hocou1r8paxn26b5pc_ob-xosrwnsez1y888pujmfmdz...@mail.gmail.com>: ||>|Your patches seem to be against dash, not busybox git tree? ||> ||> No? I think dash uses a yacc thing..? (That only supports the ||> most basic things, as per POSIX, which is two steps back for ||> busybox. But smaller i presume.) || ||The patches need to be against the git tree obtained via || git clone https://git.busybox.net/busybox/ || ||Your patches are not. | |Of course they are.
Ah wait! Is this political? Ah! Note i will _not_ support that western hybrid war, and that misuse of the western institutions, i _never_ did. It is war, it was _always_ war, and that does _not_ lead somewhere good. We destroy live on earth, we do no longer need to fly to the moon, we already landed. Especially the last thirty years saw a dramatical loss of life. All this was envisioned fifty years ago, in the "limits to growth" or .. its english name, by the famous and fantastic Club of Rome. I _do_ see ~1.2M killings in Iraq, ~250K killings in Afghanistan and Pakistan, i saw millions starving in Yemen and maybe soon or already now about three millions starving in Afghanistan, because i read not only the abstract of WHO and UN reports. This is _western_ mass murder, this is _western_ guilt. And this is only the last twenty years. I do support that Ukrainian civilians are here and the children go to school here. (Mind you, there are a lot of good cars now here, Lexus, Mazda, Toyota, they know what to buy that also survives driving all the way back, hey! Though many will also stay i think. Let them!) I do _not_ support Ukrainian goverment. They for example overruled the voice of ~77 percent of their own people when asking for city names (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kropyvnytskyi) because those chose one which would have meant brotherhood of Rus, they simply turned off media for minorities because "they never were 'ours'" (i had to look, but would find it), never cared for the people at all. If _i_ were Bundeskanzler of Germany, _that_ Ukrainian Government would get not a single Bullet. Not a bullet! As if Timoshenko was a Russian spy, no. The people, yes, let's help millions of Ukrainian men and also women and children over this time. If the English do not do it! (Let me allow a laughter.) Why is a western voice better than an eastern voice? I will _not_ do this nor any other war. I hope i would have had the faith to stand for my country Germany in World War I, but this is the only occasion where i could imagine to go to war. In particular i do not understand why the _people_ were not allowed to vote, Ukraine said something like "as long as the russian will win it, it will not happen". Germany and France (!) were able to let people vote in Elsaß and Saarland even after WWII (!), one went to France, the other to Germany. The voice of _people_ never counted in this conflict, for the _Ukrainian_ government. Here it was even worse than for Katalanien in Spain, and let's see what will happen in Scotland next year. My claim is and would always have been that if _people_ that live in a country want to leave, they should be allowed to. (At least people who lived there for a long time.) But here please, what i said on public lists since last September. (One week before the English destroyer did bad on the Krim.) This is not talking about Lenin's gift to the Kiev Rus, or it must be Kyiv Rus now in English, even though the German's also got one, and i do not think it was because he knew the German's would loose the war and they would get it all back. No, i think Lenin wanted something else. But i have no "hand" in a century old thing. And this German/Lenin Brest-Litowsk thing of course had no Polish voice (but not less could be said against the Polish later). Sure is that Kyiv Rus _never_ owned anything of the country that is currently being fight in on the ground. It was a gift, a gift to overcome a century old i-do-not-know-what in between some Ukrainians, and Russia. I believe solely the former. A century then after Lenin Ukrainian aka Kossacks where the brave, the light, the heroes (i read one in German translated Russian Youthbook when i was young, and for me i _really_ _could_ say: Ukrainians!!), after Union break up they still got lots of Gas for free, the rest very, very cheap, and surely lots of other Russian/Slavonian (what do i know! please do not break it down to this parenthesis if you answer) brotherhood support, but after the 2014 revolution in the west th far east did not want to comply. So what did happen then? After this century of gifts and support? As far as i understand it? (And yes, but the Georgian killed millions and millions all over the Union, did he?) The first that did happen was that the western ukrainians threw Splitterbomben on the people living in the east, and after Krim voted they cut sweet water supply immediately, and for eight years! I mean come on, after that century? A century where after 60 years (haha!) a monument of friendship in the between the different "Rus" was erected in Kyiv? Come to a place say people let's let a decade pass and then vote again? No?? No. So i have no hand in this. But i will not support it. The Russians fight with 90000 men against an army of >400000. There are 20000 Russians in Cherson or what its english name is. Except for cruise missiles and air, on the ground i think they did not use the most modern weapons initially. We both now they never wanted to take all of Ukraine, never. I have no hand in this. But if you ask me, a real international thing should have taken away the land from Ukraine for free, and give it to its people, and let them do with it whatever they wanted. In Germany there is a juristical thing for misused gifts, google translate says it is "gross ingratitude". This is what _i_ see here. _I_ am concerned about the terrible western war for long. I was so happy that at least _one_ western politician stood up to say that they also have this war poison that also hit that Navalny that all the western support like grazy even though he likely would be in prison in Germany also, but that is much easier than supporting the fantastic organization Transparency International that gets support from so many good and sophisticated people!! Yes, the wonderful Milos Zeman stood up. That they were incapable to protect an army depot and that some terrible criminals stole super potential deadly chemical weapons and more he did not say of course, but hey, everybody who wants to know knows it anyway. Mind you. This is the west. _One_ politician of value for 500 Million Europeans. The rest only lie. Yes. If i had to say anything, our Bundeskanzler would be charged and brought to the international court in Den Haag i think it is. But then again, i am sure nothing bad would happen to him, which i do not understand. I can quote several lies, contractions, and distortions per day. I vote him, by the way. I regret it. Unfortunately we also lost one peace activist in the last days, mentioned on English Wikipedia even, Hans-Christian Ströbele. I am a Bhuddhist. I will _not_ support western hybrid war, i will _not_ help towards the American Weltherrschaft Endsieg. Here the famous German Artist Joseph Beuys with his song "Sonne statt Reagan" ("Sunshine not Rain" eh "Reagan") from 1982. No Endsieg no more for noone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ1_ALxGbGk So here are mails from last September on. Cheerio. This Wed, 22 Sep 2021 01:43:30 +0200 |ISO countries doesn't solve some of the thorny political issues, |because ISO codes don't take a position on boundary disputes or naming |disputes. E.g. Crimea. When the invasion happened, the civil time in You mean the russian majority living in the majority of the land invaded the land it is living on for long? Just to get it right. Since NATO will move onward to the east (do not mind a possibly existing contract, as we only fullfill wishes of the people living there), i will surely soon be able to have a look myself. |the region occupied changed. That means a new zone entry needed to be |created. I don't know how defering to ISO resolves the naming of that |one. | |The other example would be Palestine. Regardless of what ISO decides, |the time in Palestine is what it is, and is different from Israel in |funny ways, and the territories that have gone back and forth have |gone back and forth and thus need new entries. Well not much longer and that problem was overcome by enforced exodus for many parts. If the sun rises over the walls and the razor wire, they surely know it is daytime, and it is time to go and work on the fields they do not own. Maybe what you meant. |What ISO countries do solve is the vanity issues of people wanting |timezones with their local big cities in them appearing in a list, |even if the timezone is the same as one in another country. But let aside that radical left wing political targeted drone killing, as we do not want another cold war, didn't the last discussion came to the conclusion that all you need to get back to original state is a slightly adjusted command line when building the data? Wasn't this true? I mean here at [9296ea527d] i still see This Thu, 17 Mar 2022 22:37:43 +0100 I know it is terribly off-topic and i am not defending this war. But in Donbass there was an eight year long war, and Human Rights Watch accused the non-Russian side of using cluster bombs etc. against Russians in 2015 plus. There were ~14000 death human beings on both sides in the last eight years, and the one and only Russian point in the Minsk protocol, asking the population of Donbass in a democratic vote on which side of the border they want to live, was never fullfilled, not even to an extent. We are talking about three million people here. And even though all (non-Ukraine) parties tried to get that done, including to a large extend Germany and the by then minister of foreign state and now president Steinmeier. I really wish anyone would talk about the ~1.3 million death human beings in Irak, Afghanistan and Pakistan, as well as the millions of people starving in Yemen due to western supported warfare. ~1.3 Million, and Germany was involved! By Jove!!! This Sat, 19 Mar 2022 00:01:37 +0100 Ever since yesterday my stomach screams one of the receivers is thinking the numbers are way too high, therefore this. Two things, first of all, why don't you ask then. And second, this is a fall-out of the problems in the western world, all the institutions including UNO and even the noble price are misused for political reasons for no good, thousands of little screw drivers turn the truth a little bit so it fits their bill more. Heck, our society more and more rests on the hollow ground of lies and misinformation! These numbers are from a meta study from the IIPNW Germany / PSR / PGS divisions of the IPPNW (International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War), it is called "Body Count", they collect studies taken in the ten years after the start of the (so-called) war against terror. The covered studies include Lancet (John Hopkins University) and IFHS of WHO, and several others. The range spans widely, but, in fact, even the WHO study gives a much lower number than for example Lancet, but that number only seems to cover a small portion of the overall number of deads that the WHO study agrees with: if you do look at the _overall_ number of deaths, then you see a factor two increasement of the number of deaths ever since March 2003, almost as much as Lancet, which gave factor 2.4. If you look at this overall count, you end up with the numbers i gave. Of course, if i would be a jiddish comedian from New York i would possibly say that the very, very large difference in deaths has to be attributed to a misinformation of the Iraqi people, they thought they have to eat at McDonalds now that the Americans are coming, and preferred leaving to a different world. (These numbers do not include missing persons, the meta study refers to the ICMP (International Commission on Missing Persons), which estimated the number of missing persons in Iraq to be in the range of 250.000 and 1.000.000 people. And they also do not include illnesses and misforcaused by poisining due to weapons, for example ammunition with radioactive materials.) This Thu, 26 May 2022 19:32:09 +0200 Seventy-seven percent (77%) of the habitants voted that way. And yes (again, that is), compare this with the Scottish vote percentages. And it is plain _to_me_ that even the Tatars, which were the original habitants there, and on all of Ukraine sea-side, and more, by the way, would now vote even stronger pro Russia, given that Ukraine cut their water supply for eight (8) years, only because they voted differently than western Ukraine politicians wanted. And again, Ukraine it was who simply denied people of Donbass to vote, even if that was part of the Minsk contract, and even if it was tried over and over again to make it happen. At least from those few in the western world who were looking for a peaceful togetherness, which, granted, are not that many. But i do not know why the remains of Germany (and all of France) were capable to allow the people in Saarland and Elsass to vote (for Germany and France, respectively), but others cannot. This is different to Litauen (which, to make that very clear, can provide the most terrible SS henchmen, you do not even have to ask, even more terrible than Ukrainian ones (German soldier moral declines massively when civilians are to be massacred, as 20th century history facts often prove), and have no problem with building CIA torture prisons once these have to leave Germany), where very tough European regulations do not seem to stress claims that the 2002 special agreement in between Europe and Russia on transit to Kaliningrad for goods and human beings is not covered by the sanctions against Russia, as can be verified at [1] (even though i am no lawyer). (I wish western Governments would be so open; but maybe you could even find the same thing somewhere on an EU server, and i just do not know where. Maybe behind a HTML 5 Javascript thing.) [1] http://en.kremlin.ru/supplement/3537/print (I personally am against sanctions, it seems unfair compared to other (massively more deadly) conflicts, also including the same war pre-2022. Nine of the ten greatest countries in the world did not go that way in the UN vote, and i am afraid western institutions including UN and anything else have to live with a massive loss of face because of the totally biased misuse. And that western speculators impose a food crisis whereas the west claims it is Putin's fault does not make things any better, especially for the 800 million people on earth for who food is a problem. It is disgusting to claim that 6.000.000 tons of wheat (Russia says 5M), with only ~3M left now, in an 800M/year market, cause this, and everybody knows. How depraved you have to be for such. This is against culture, religion, and anything else. I stand all this ground.) So let's just hope this war is over soon, and the millions of Ukrainians also in Germany can go home again, and the hundreds of thousands of school kids can visit their schools at home again. No western Ukrainian Politician has to be afraid they will ever face Russian culture, that was forbidden more and more before the war already, as even western organizations have denounced. With the next release that hopefully happens no sooner but when a time and date change is necessary, as i think has always been the case, this pressure hopefully ends, and as the wonderful Harry Mulisch writes in his "Discovery of the Heaven" (translating the german title, and i personally like his "Das Attentat" more), the screaming blue eyed you-call-it gets support from the kindergartener, but true heaven will (eventually) be discovered by the "hero" of our story. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt) _______________________________________________ busybox mailing list [email protected] http://lists.busybox.net/mailman/listinfo/busybox
