i send this picture with higher resolution, for kk, so that he can check it properly. moderator pls allow this attachment. regards Arjan
On 11/26/08, Arjan Basuroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dear KK and all, > i got the attached photo in chakrata. i believe tha mr tiwari has the same > photo, we two have spotted this while the others were shooting a wall. now > from your posting i think this is *putli* . So Eastern Grass Jewel in > central himalayas at 7000 ft. pls check the photo and see weather i am right > or not. > regards > Arjan > > > > > On 11/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> hello all, >> >> >> JM Garg's butterfly in question is* Chilades putli* (the Eastern Grass >> Jewel). see the attached for difference between this species and*Chilades >> trochylus >> * (the Grass Jewel). in* trochylus* (the two pictures to the right in the >> attached file) the tornal spots on the upper side are prominently >> orange-crowned, and the marginal spots on the underside have extensive >> orange borders. in* putli* (the picture on the left), the upper side has >> no orange and the extent of orange on the underside is highly reduced. the >> picture of* trochylus* given in isaac's recent book (p. 262) is a >> misidentification: it is actually* putli*. isaac's entire "Status" and >> "H&H" sections for* trochylus*, in fact, belong to* putli*, not*trochylus >> *.* putli* is extensively distributed in india and the oriental region >> while* trochylus* is mostly an african species that penetrates into the >> indian subcontinent but isn't as common or widespread. most of the grass >> jewel pictures you would find in indian books or on the web are* putli*. >> Evans treated* putli* as a subspecies of * trochylus* and, following >> Gaonkar's Western Ghats butterfly checklist, i had also lumped it >> under*trochylus >> * in my various previous publications and web-pages. however, following >> most other recent authors, who treat* putli* as a species distinct >> from*trochylus >> *, i will be treating* putli* separately in my upcoming books. >> >> >> note that i have used* Chilades* rather than* Freyeria*, with which most >> of you are familiar for these two species. this change is following Larsen's >> text for* putli* from Butterflies of Bangladesh (p. 70): "It was >> previously known in the combination* Freyeria trochylus putli*, but the >> generic name is invalid and* C. putli* is specifically distinct from* C. >> trochylus*...". larsen includes* putli* under* Chilades*. >> >> >> i will be writing more about these two species in my upcoming systematic >> catalog of indian butterflies but i hope that the above information >> clarifies the issue for everyone. let me know if any confusion still >> lingers. >> >> >> cheers, >> >> >> At 8:56 PM +0530 11/25/08, raju kasambe wrote: >> >> Dear Sir, >> >> The difference is significant. I think Isaac or KK will be the right >> person to comment now. >> >> It is indeed a great catch. >> >> Regards, >> >> Raju >> >> >> >> >> >> On 11/17/08,* J.M. Garg* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Thanks, Raju ji, >> >> Doesn't seem to match with pictures of* Freyeria putli* at >> http://www.malaeng.com/blog/?p=4323 >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:09 PM, raju kasambe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> Dear Sir, >> >> I think this might be the* Freyeria putli*, the nearest species of Grass >> Jewel (*Freyeria trochylus*). Please confirm. >> >> Regards, >> >> Raju >> >> >> >> On 11/14/08,* J.M. Garg* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Grass Jewel (*Freyeria trochylus*)- a variation? On 181008 in Narshapur >> forest around 80 Km. from Hyderabad, AP. >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> "We often ignore the beauty around us" >> Creating Awareness about Indian Flora & Fauna: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google e-group >> (Indiantreepix) http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> "We often ignore the beauty around us" >> Creating Awareness about Indian Flora & Fauna: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google e-group >> (Indiantreepix) http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Dr. Krushnamegh Kunte >> >> Post-doctoral Research Fellow (Kronforst Lab) >> FAS Center for Systems Biology >> Harvard University >> 52 Oxford St >> Northwest Lab Room 458.40-3 >> Cambridge, MA 02138, USA. >> >> Ph: (617) 496-0078 >> Cell: (512) 577-1370 >> Fax: (617) 495-2196 >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Academic Website: >> http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~kunte/AcademicsHome.htm >> General Website: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~kunte/index.htm >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Arjan Basu Roy > 6/7 Bijoygarh, Kolkata - 700 032 > West Bengal, India > > Be natures' mate! > -- Arjan Basu Roy 6/7 Bijoygarh, Kolkata - 700 032 West Bengal, India Be natures' mate! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Enjoy -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
