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From: Abhijna Desai <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ButterflyIndia] Designing a muddle puddle To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, 11 March, 2010, 12:19 PM WOW On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Kishen Das <malabartreenymph@ gmail.com> wrote: Rajahs, Nawabs, Some of the Hesperiids - Animal droppings ( If the animal is carnivore, its even more cool !!! So, during your nature trail, if you bump onto some small mammal droppings, don't hesitate to pack it a plastic sheet. You can dry it later and then place it in the field after making it bit moist by adding few drops of water) Droppings of Herbivores will hardly attract any butterflies !!! I have only seen few reluctant Pansies on them, who were saying, " Oh man, this thing sucks" !!!! Ceruleans, Flats - Bird Dropping Beaks - Rocks with bit of moisture on them + I believe bit of salt, not sure !!!!Pierids + Papilionids - Salt + Lots of your own urine ( Don't just drink water and urinate, it should be after taking proper food the previous day and not relieving yourself, till you actually goto the right place next day and doing it on the right spot !!!! Sounds nasty, but it works for most of the species ) In case of swallowtails, you can also make soup of small dry dead fishes and add bit of salt to it and spread it in the right spot and of course, urinate on top of it.Lycaenids: Do lot of exercises and sweat before you goto the field, this will attract Lycaenids, which will eventually come and puddle on you :-). Barons - Rotten fruitsNawabs, Rajahs, Evening Browns, Bush Browns, Southern Duffer !!! - Tree gums Some say, alcoholic beverages work better!!! I am a non-drinker, so never tried it. Although I have written specific Group of butterflies against each recipe, it should pretty much cover/attract rest of the butterflies as well, except for the ones that have highly specific requirements. And there are few species which I have never seen puddling. - Kishen On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Yashodan Heblekar <yashodan.heblekar@ yahoo.com> wrote: Thanks Colonel ! We did try with cowdung , crabs , prawns , cashew fenny , beer and fruits. We have installed such feeding trays all over the conservatory , but these get devoured by ants and birds before the butterflies can come in. Baron and Grey Count do however share their peg of the spirits , but we yearn to see a flock of assorted butterflies coming in for the party. We have a 30 metre stream which we are now revamping . We shall try the multiple substrates . Common salt didn't attract any. So didn't the river sand . Funnily while we had put some cemet out for waterproofing rain water tank we got some sunbeams mud puddling ! From: Ashwin Baindur <ashwin_baindur@ yahoo.com> To: Yashodan Heblekar <yashodan.heblekar@ yahoo.com> Cc: butterflyindia <butterflyindia@ yahoogroups. com> Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 3:28:12 PM Subject: Re: [ButterflyIndia] Designing a muddle puddle Hi Yashodhan, Take your time to understand the phenomenon. You may like to read this wikipedia article to begin with : http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Mud_puddling Perhaps you could provide the stream with different substrates along different streches? Say clay at one place, sand at another, if you can it would be nice to have many spots where you could experiment for different mixes. I'm sure you have thought about have dung-spots, rotting-fruit spots etc. I'm attaching some scientific papers by Beck et al, Boggs & Jackson which will begin to tickle your mind. 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