Thanks, Keith for the references which would be important for all of us! Kind regards, Usha
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Keith Wolfe <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Welcome back, Usha. Unfortunately, color illustrations of Bhutanitis, > Meandrusa, and Teinopalpus immatures would be difficult to provide at this > time, so please accept these black and white scans of the original papers by > the great Suguru Igarashi. > > > http://home.comcast.net/~bflyearlystages/Bhutanitis-lidderdalii-early-stages-Bhutan.pdf > > http://home.comcast.net/~bflyearlystages/Meandrusa-payeni-early-stages-Malaysia.pdf > > http://home.comcast.net/~bflyearlystages/Teinopalpus-imperialis-early-stages-India.pdf > > And for those who appreciate color (as do I) and can read Chinese, see the > attached report plus: > > http://www.hkls-forum.org/viewtopic.php?t=1180 > > Best wishes, > > Keith > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected], [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:54:55 -0000 (UTC) > > Subject: Re: Re: [ButterflyIndia] 2 butterfly and 1moth cats and a > butterfly for id from Sikkim > > Dear All, > > I have just returned from Lachung. The ground is just recently free of snow > hence very few herbs other than an early Primula denticulata. Have asked the > family to look for the plant and caterpillars. > Yes the herb is an aromatic umbellifer which is also apparently used > medicinally locally, so people are familiar with it. Hope to have a picture > in a month or so. > > Keith, could you post pictures of caterpillars of Bhutanitis, Meandrusa, > and Teinopalpus, so we'd know what to look for here? Thanks in advance, > Usha > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Keith Wolfe <[email protected]> > wrote: > > All, having seen the distinctive caterpillar of Papilio machaon on three > continents, I would be VERY surprised if the Lachung photo shows anything > but a darkly patterned ("atypical") midsize larva of this butterfly. If not, > what else could it be? All other known Indian swallowtail cats look much > different or have adults that allow us to more or less reliably predict > their larval appearance, and the herb in Usha's image strongly resembles an > umbellifer (Apiaceae) -- another compelling indication of P. machaon, which > specializes on this aromatic plant family. > > Krushnamegh, Bhutanitis, Meandrusa, and Teinopalpus have completely > different caterpillars and host associations (yes, I have illustrations of > all three). > > > Best wishes, > > Keith Wolfe > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 07:46:17 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: Re: [ButterflyIndia] 2 butterfly and 1moth cats and a > butterfly for id from Sikkim > > Krushnamegh, I have bred heaps of machaon here: this is certainly not > machaon. I cannot suggest what it could be, but it might help narrow things > down a bit if the LFP were known. > > On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 03:16:21 +0530 wrote > > Peter, Lachung is pretty high elevation. What other swallowtails occur > there that would have this type of caterpillars? Please let me know, I do > not have much experience with early stages of high-elevation butterflies. > > Krushnamegh. > > From: Peter Smetacek > Reply-To: butterflyindia > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:16:31 -0500 > To: butterflyindia > Subject: Re: [ButterflyIndia] 2 butterfly and 1moth cats and a butterfly > for id from Sikkim > > The first larva is a swallowtail but crtainly not machaon. > the next 2 larvae are hawkmoths, the green one with mauve stripes is > probably Acherontia lachesis (death's head hawkmoth) > The butterfly is Hypolimnas bolina. > > On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:47:13 +0530 wrote > > Dear All, please see attached and help id: > Swallowtail Cat?: Krushnamegh's: is your caterpillar from Lachung of Yellow > Swallowtail? > 1. Labin Rai's caterpillar: which butterfly? > 2. Labin Rai's caterpillar: which moth? > 3. Labin Rai's: which butterfly? > > Thanks in advance, > Usha > > > -- Usha Ganguli-Lachungpa Sr. Research Officer (WL) Dept. of Forest, Env. & WL Mgmt. Government of Sikkim Deorali, Gangtok 737102 Tel/Fax:91-3592-280402; Cell:094340-25273 [email protected] -- Enjoy
