Fair enough. On the other hand, my 2m radio also has that big knob. :) I 
daresay most do, or at least they should. It is in the nature of VHF-UHF 
communications, though, that people tend to coalesce on a relatively few 
frequencies. That limits opportunity for spontaneous conversation right there. 
Given that limited choice, combined with the fact that the morning and evening 
traffic creates a situation where people are virtually sharing a table for a 
significant time, there's a need for topics of broad interest. However, trust 
me, anything you say will offend someone. That’s just human nature. 

 

From: BVARC [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ravi Ratnala via BVARC
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 13:49
To: Tony BenBrahim; BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB
Subject: Re: [BVARC] politics on the repeater??

 

I am a native-born Texan, Constitutionalist, conservative Christian, and I 
approve that message.  :-)

Well said.  I think the more general message, which I really do TRY to practice 
myself, is just to be a gentleman.  And, remember that a whole lot of people 
are likely listening to what you say.

73,

Rav
KF5YHP



Tony BenBrahim via BVARC wrote: 

Scott, 

 

I guess the point is that there is a distinction between the use of the BVARC 
repeater and some round table on 80 m.  A round table serves a limited number 
of people with similar interests, similar world outlook and opinions. If you 
are offended, there is a big knob on the radio that can take you to a more 
pleasing conversation. The BVARC repeater is for the use of all members, 
regardless of race, gender, political affiliation, etc... It easier to state 
that no political or religious discussion should take place, rather than try to 
arbitrate what might constitute civil discussion. Someone might think that they 
are being perfectly civil and appropriate as they state that Obama is Kenyan, 
or that Catholics and Jews are going to hell because they have not accepted 
Christ as their savior, but it offends a large number of members. In a 200 
member club, you are guaranteed to offend with those topics, there are many 
religions or lack thereof represented,many political affiliations (hard for 
some to believe, I know, but there are Democrats in BVARC) as well as many 
races and ethnographic groups,  who might find the club less than welcoming 
with such discourse on the club repeater or the club mailing list (emphasis on 
club). Again, what you do on other frequencies and venues is your business, it 
does not reflect upon BVARC in any way.

 

Tony

K5DEV

 

 

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Bruce via BVARC <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I have found, while monitoring many lists, that there will always be a subject 
that someone does not like to discuss. This subject then, always becomes the 
most talked about subject for a long time to come. Now that we have that 
subject, we can continue to talk about it until the cows come home. Then we can 
return to the woodchuck. 

73...bruce 



On 11/6/2014 12:18 PM, Scott Royall via BVARC wrote:

Hmm. Bill, why do I find  this post vaguely disturbing? Are you suggesting that 
Amateur Radio assets should only be used to discuss Amateur Radio topics? Gee, 
I may be wrong, but that appears to be awfully boring and myopic. How many 
times can we talk about amplifier design, or how well so-and-so did in the 
latest contest? It seems to me that one of the biggest problems facing this 
country is voter apathy, and any forum that serves responsible discussion of 
topical issues should be welcomed.

 

Of course I was not present this morning so I don’t know if the verbal 
equivalent of blood was spilled. Were people called derogatory names? Did 
tempers flare? Agreed, polite social etiquette discourages such behavior, and 
Hams are generally expected to be role models. Yet, I know you’ve been around 
long enough to know Hams are no better or worse than anyone else. Indeed, I’m 
happy to read that religion and politics did come up, as long as verbal shots 
weren't fired. I don’t see how harm was done unless somebody is nursing a 
grudge. That would be unacceptable.

 

Incidentally, Functional MRI studies have revealed that the same areas of our 
brains that become active when discussing politics and religion are also 
involved in discussing such things as our operating system preferences. In 
other words, our emotions become attached to whatever matters to us 
individually.

 

I, for one, welcome rational responses to this post.

 

From: BVARC [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Stone via BVARC
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 08:47
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [BVARC] politics on the repeater??

 

As I sit and lurk the 94 repeater from 8pm -8:30 PM all I hear is politics and 
now its moving to religious ethnics.... I am not the trustee for the 94 but it 
is easy to say these topics are not related to AMATEUR radio and do not spread 
our good will philosophies.

 

If you voted in the elections that is great and the American way of life and 
your rights as an American. Your freedom of voice of your political opinion is 
never suppressed in America however please there is a place and a time to do so 
and the repeater is not the place to do it...same goes for religious activities 
that are not of your own religious concepts.

Thanks for allowing my humble suggestion on the email reflector and do not feel 
this needs a responce.

tnx WS5H





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