Sorry, that should have been addressed to Kirk! Not Rick.
See, my brain is AWOL!


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Subject: Re: [BVARC] Antenna Theory Technical Question

Do not use this kind of fan dipole see attached.

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 1:21 PM Kirk Kendrick via BVARC 
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Rick,

Fan dipole with all the wires the same length....and closely spaced. Resistance 
should be 2) unchanged as others pointed out. Coupling will cause broader BW 
like a cage dipole. Unless your antenna conductors are manufactured to limit 
variance.... Impedence in real world will be hard to model in a bundle that has 
varying capacitance due to uneven spacing and varying inductance due to twists 
and turns within bundle

I'll throw out a slightly different thought.

I think it would also model as a sleeve antenna.  That would make the EZNEC 
model have only 1 dipole driven and all the other wires evenly spaced around it 
potentially with small gap at feed point (that shouldn't be needed since it's a 
zero voltage point).

At least, my mental model has them as (close to) equal. But my brain wanders a 
bunch.

73,
Kirk KK2Z

PS: My favorite "work of art" sleeve dipole in one of the early antenna 
compendiums was a vertical made up of a ring of resonators -- one for each band 
-- around a driven vertical in center.

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To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [BVARC] Antenna Theory Technical Question
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I am in the midst of analyzing a Ham market HF antenna.  Still building the
EZNEC model, but working it thru the gray matter.

Case:  Take a 1/2 wl dipole antenna -- center fed.  Each side is made up of
multiple, equal length wires that are each insulated, parallel, and closely
spaced.  The wires are connected/common at the center feed point, but open
at the far end.

If, at this length, each wire's material DC resistance is 5 ohms....does
using multiple wires in parallel, as described above, 1) lower the total RF
material resistance, as resistors in parallel....or 2) does it stay the
same or 3) does it become additive?

Any comments would be appreciated.  I've got my hypothesis, but wishing
additional input.

Thanks and 73 ...Rick   W5RH

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