Yep, further reading convinced me of that. How do I throw some money at the Amateur Radio Parity Act? Is it hopelessly dead already?
Sent from my mobile phone -------- Original message -------- From: Gus Bernard via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> Date: 4/30/20 5:19 PM (GMT-06:00) To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org> Cc: Gus Bernard <gneln...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Amateur Radio Mentor Group (AMRG) Presentation Jeff, PRB-1 applies to government regulations, not to HOA or deed restrictions. Gus, KG5OFB On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 09:52 Jeff Greer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote: from https://www.fcc.gov/media/over-air-reception-devices-rule: Q: What are "fixed wireless signals"? A: "Fixed wireless signals" are any commercial non-broadcast communications signals transmitted via wireless technology to and/or from a fixed customer location. Examples include wireless signals used to provide telephone service or high-speed Internet access to a fixed location. This definition does not include, among other things, AM/FM radio, amateur ("HAM") radio (but see 47 C.F.R. §97.15), Citizens Band ("CB") radio, and Digital Audio Radio Services ("DARS") signals. Having said that, this does look promising: § 97.15 Station<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=26fa67e08a4fe2b7cddd3bb2b65d3575&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:D:Part:97:Subpart:A:97.15> antenna structures. (a) Owners of certain antenna structures more than 60.96 meters (200 feet) above ground level at the site or located near or at a public use airport must notify the Federal Aviation Administration and register with the Commission as required by part 17<https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/part-17> of this chapter. (b) Except as otherwise provided herein, a station<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=26fa67e08a4fe2b7cddd3bb2b65d3575&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:D:Part:97:Subpart:A:97.15> antenna structure may be erected at heights and dimensions sufficient to accommodate amateur service<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=04a685c8637e98919b1b6170f440c331&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:D:Part:97:Subpart:A:97.15> communications. (State and local regulation of a station<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=26fa67e08a4fe2b7cddd3bb2b65d3575&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:D:Part:97:Subpart:A:97.15> antenna structure must not preclude amateur service<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=04a685c8637e98919b1b6170f440c331&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:D:Part:97:Subpart:A:97.15> communications. Rather, it must reasonably accommodate such communications and must constitute the minimum practicable regulation to accomplish the state<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=974fe48061e86e76cd884bfb06a1dca5&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:D:Part:97:Subpart:A:97.15> or local authority's legitimate purpose. See PRB-1, 101 FCC<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=e5deaec63e3a2b2b86f45ed00919800e&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:D:Part:97:Subpart:A:97.15> 2d 952 (1985) for details.) (c) Antennas used to transmit in the 2200 m and 630 m bands must not exceed 60 meters in height above ground level. [64 FR 53242<https://www.law.cornell.edu/rio/citation/64_FR_53242>, Oct. 1, 1999, as amended at 82 FR 27214<https://www.law.cornell.edu/rio/citation/82_FR_27214>, June 14, 2017] ...and that led me here: https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/bureau-divisions/mobility-division/amateur-radio-service/prb-1-1985 So, it looks like "Federal law trumps" is indeed the answer. Whether I can make my HOA believe that is another matter... -j ________________________________ From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org>> on behalf of David Hold via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 9:30 AM To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> Cc: David Hold <davidh...@gmail.com<mailto:davidh...@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Amateur Radio Mentor Group (AMRG) Presentation Fcc OTARD rule Passed 1999 Is on your side If hoa says if hoa gives you trouble call FCC Federal government law trumps and stupid HOA rule On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:17 AM Jeff Greer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote: You must have a nicer HOA than I do: [cid:171cb7c96ddea654a7f1] Still, these HOA rules also stipulate no fireworks, and you should see the place light up on the 4th of July. I think this is gonna be a case of asking forgiveness vs permission... -j ________________________________ From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org>> on behalf of DAVID ELY via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 5:48 PM To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> Cc: DAVID ELY <david...@prodigy.net<mailto:david...@prodigy.net>>; Rick Hiller <rickhille...@gmail.com<mailto:rickhille...@gmail.com>>; Bill, K5LK <k...@billkemp.com<mailto:k...@billkemp.com>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Amateur Radio Mentor Group (AMRG) Presentation Sorry that I missed the presentation. My primary antenna is a end-fed 73ft wire with a 9:1 transformer and a counterpoise that I use to primarily work 20, 40 and 75. I have logged 87 countries with it and it is in HOA compliance. Dave Ely - N5EKW On Wednesday, April 29, 2020, 5:06:12 PM CDT, Rick Hiller via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org<mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote: The local ARMG had a Zoom based presentation on Monday evening. 4 subjects were covered -- Vertical antennas, Coax Fundamentals, Coax installation and grounding and End Fed Multi-band wire Antennas. Bill, K5LK, in Brookshire, put out a note of links for the video and other information. I was impressed with the End Fed Multi-band section -- Steve, N4LQ has been putzing with these for quite some time and his presentation is well worth your time to view. (Start the video at about 1:34:30 for it) The other presentations are also very informative, but Steve enlightens the viewer on end feds in all aspects. His solution is quite applicable, for probably, a lot of folks. Bill's, K5LK, info note is pasted below. Just follow the links. GL...Rick -- BVARC ------------------------------------------------------------------ Our 2nd ARMG program was held last night on the topic of "Antennas". We had over 60 check-ins. A recording of the program and chat log is located here: http://www.k5wh.net/ARMG/April-27-2020/ Thanks to the following hams and their sub-topics: - HF antenna experience in HOA restricted neighborhood (WA2TOP) - Coax (W5RH) - Running coax to your shack & grounding your station (K5JBT) - End Fed Half Wave (N4LQ) We continue to look for ways to help mentor amateurs, especially newly licensed and returning hams. If you have ideas or topics to help in this endeavor, please let us know. 73 de Bill, K5LK - ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org<mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org<mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org -- David Hold david.h...@gmail.com<mailto:david.h...@gmail.com> ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org<mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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