Agree with W5JEF i'm 9 years in with a G5RV, 17' TRAM dual band, 2 Stacked 2m 
loops all in a very strict HOA gated community. As long as its not really 
noticeable from the street, you will likely get away with it. Always the 
neighbors are another factor, I planned ahead and did all my antenna erecting 
as early as I could to not bring attention. A wire going from your roof over a 
tree and tied off at the fence is more invisible than you might imagine, and 
very effective as an antenna. Most people wont go in your back yard and look up!
I'm moving at the end of next week, I found a neighborhood with a peculiar 
antenna policy..: "No antennas in front of the front boundary of the main 
dwelling on the property", i'm thinking they had cattle cable at some point or 
another Ham got ahold of that bylaw and adjusted. :-)
KF5ONT
    On Friday, May 13, 2022, 08:18:56 AM CDT, JP Pritchard via BVARC 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
   And if I'd opened you second post I would have seen the picture.  Thanks, 
   JP  
  On 05/13/2022 7:37 AM Jeff Greer via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:   
   
   There's a pic of it at  https://www.qrz.com/db/w5jef, if you're interested.  
 
   -j 
   
   
    From: BVARC <[email protected]> on behalf of Jeff Greer via BVARC 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 7:34 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
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Cc: Jeff Greer <[email protected]>; 'CTDXCC' <[email protected]>; 
[email protected] <[email protected]>; 'BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB' 
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Subject: Re: [BVARC] Ham Radio in an HOA  
     I, too, am in an HOA with a strict "no antennas" rule, and I, too, have a 
radiant barrier blocking RF in the attic.  I home-brewed a DX Commander clone 
(search YouTube for "DX Commander") and put it up in the back yard.  I don't 
think anybody who's not a ham recognizes it as an antenna.  It just looks like 
a 31-foot fiberglass telescoping pole standing up in the yard.  (I used a 
Jackite pole from Amazon, which is typically used for flying bird-shaped kites, 
as I understand it.  You'll see these poles set up along the seawall in 
Galveston, with various kites/windsocks attached to their tops...)   
   It's been up for months, and nobody's said a word to me about it.  
   
   My goal is to get DXCC on 100 watts on SSB before delving into CW and 
digital.  I've talked to hams in a bunch of DXCC entities, and, so far, I have 
36 LOTW confirmations and 2 QSL cards for my efforts.  It'd be more if I had 
more time to operate...   
   Moral of the story:  sometimes it's best to ask for forgiveness (if you have 
to) than to ask for permission...   
   -Jeff, W5JEF 
   
   
   ...I also have a cheap weather station that I intend to mount on top of the 
PVC pipe housing my Ed Fong VHF/UHF antenna.  I'll put it up, and can claim 
that it's a weather station and not an antenna.  There are ways to get things 
up in the air, even in an HOA... 
   
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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 9:49 PM
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Cc: 'CTDXCC' <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
'BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB' <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
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Subject: RE: [BVARC] Ham Radio in an HOA  
     
Thank you for your comments, Dave.  And I really enjoyed listening to Bob Heil 
on the Zoom call tonight.
 


 
I’m just getting settled in Bryan, TX, and I’m also struggling with HOA 
restrictions on external antennas.  One thing I did not know (coming from 
Northern Virginia) about Texas is the aluminum foil that lines my attic roof 
sheeting (“heat barrier”), which turned a huge, functional open space into an 
RF “vault.”  We do have a six foot, wooden fence around the property line, so I 
could install a longwire/dipole along the top of the fence but suffer from a 
minimal height, or I could install metal gutters and tune them, or a “flag 
pole” vertical is a possible third option…  There are no trees on our 1/4 acre 
lot.  Oh, and I’m not sure if I should drill and penetrate the house’s 
exterior, stone wall… or use some sort of antenna-coax “pass-through” 
connectors in a window opening.
 


 
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
 


 
73’s,
 


 
Kevin / N4RMF
 
Bryan
 


 


   
From: BVARC <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David F. Reed via BVARC
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 7:11 PM
To: CTDXCC <[email protected]>; [email protected]; BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR 
RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
Cc: David F. Reed <[email protected]>
Subject: [BVARC] Ham Radio in an HOA
   


 
Greetings all; I just thought I would give a quick report on my operating 
within an HOA with restrictions…
  


   
As you might guess, my antennas are severely compromised (mostly using a 
terminated folded dipole in the attic while trying to get permission for an 
external Carolina Windom)…
   


   
My serious DXing is by remote base, but I have re-discovered digital modes 
(primarily FT8); barefoot (expecting amplifier back from repair at the mother 
ship next week), I have managed to work some 40 countries in the last few 
months.
    


   
Just thought it might be worth sharing; I encourage other frustrated DXers in 
HOAs to give FT8 a try - definitely not for ragchewrs though…
   


   
73 de W5SV - Dave
  


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