If you need holes drilled in your plate or want terminals brazed on, I have the 
equipment to do this. Just contact me. My contact info is in the BVARC roster. 
Robert KD5YVQ

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From: BVARC <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rick Hiller via BVARC
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2022 7:15 PM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
Cc: Rick Hiller <[email protected]>; Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Solder help

I did similar to Jonathan with an AL plate.   Drilled and bolts put thru.   
Using OxGard or No-Ox on all bolt/washer/ wire connections.
You can use Solder lugs soldered to wire ends for easy of assembly. But not 
necessary.
D X Engineering sells a Radial Plate but they are easy to build and cheaper.
The soldering comments are all excellent.   I used a special low temp solder 
paste for AL years ago.  Called Solder-It, if I remember correctly.
GL ES 73.  Rick.  W5RH

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> On Oct 1, 2022, at 5:39 PM, Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> First, I'm attaching photos of the thing I made for doing something similar.  
> It's made from a chunk of plywood I found in the garage, some 14 gauge 
> Romex(tm), and some stainless steel hardware I bought.  There are six 
> carriage bolts with wingnuts to attach ground radials to and the PVC cap in 
> the center is held on with some threaded rod intended to stick into the 
> ground.  I don't know if this will help you solve the meta problem of making 
> something to attach ground radials to, but I include it because I think it's 
> a good solution for homemade antennas.
> 
> I've read the other responses that have been written to your question so far, 
> and while there is good advice there, I think it might be useful to explain 
> some of the why's behind the advice. I'm sure I'll get lots of corrections 
> for the things I get wrong, but here goes.
> 
> To get a good solder joint, the solder has to wet the things you are joining. 
>  There are two barriers to the solder wetting metals.  First, the solder has 
> to be molten as it touches the things to be joined.  That generally means 
> that the things to be joined have to be at or above the temperature at which 
> the solder melts.  Since most metals are so effective at conducting heat, 
> that generally means that large pieces of metal don't solder very well.  You 
> can get around this by using the correct equipment.  I have a soldering iron 
> intended for people to use to solder the lead channels used for stained 
> glass.  It's got a honking big chunk of metal on the tip, which is why it 
> works for soldering things like PL-259's and whatnot, although I've pretty 
> much switched to crimp connectors for those.
> 
> The other barrier to solder wetting the things you're soldering has to do 
> with the chemistry of metals.  Metal atoms are highly reactive.  So is 
> oxygen.  So when a refined metal (consisting largely or exclusively of the 
> atoms of one or more metals and very little oxygen) comes in contact with 
> air, the two tend to combine and make a layer of oxide on the surface.  
> Solder does not wet metal oxides very well.  So, if you're making something 
> that has to be soldered together, you have to remove all the oxides that you 
> can before you begin.  There will still be some oxides on the surface that 
> will form between when you clean the metal and when you start soldering, so 
> solder is typically used with a material called flux to help deal with that.  
> Flux either comes with the solder or separately, but the flux is there to 
> help the solder wet the things to be soldered if there's a little bit of 
> oxide on those things.
> 
> Some fluxes work better than others with some materials than others.  
> However, some materials, like aluminum, are so reactive that they require 
> special techniques to solder.  I have never tried it, and maybe there are 
> techniques that can be used to solder to aluminum that didn't exist when I 
> last looked into it in the 1980's, but I know some methods that are supposed 
> to work.
> 
>> On 10/1/2022 12:41 PM, Shannon Tassin via BVARC wrote:
>> Happy Saturday All,
>> 
>> I am working to improve my homemade vertical HF antenna project that I made 
>> several months back based on an ARRL magazine article.
>> 
>> This washer will allow my ground stake to fit through the middle and gives 
>> me a nice surface area for attaching my 10 ground radials. It was a leftover 
>> from another project so I don’t recall exactly what metal it is. My problem 
>> is that I cannot seem to get the solder to stick to it. I am very much a 
>> beginner with soldering.
>> 
>> What do I need to do differently?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Shannon Tassin
>> K4SCT
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