I'm sorry, WHAT?
Look, I've never been a military pilot, but I've been a civil pilot for
like 35 years. I have observed, like up close and personal-like,
military aircraft on military missions landing and doing other
operations at civil airports. As I said, it happens all the time. In
fact, civil pilots communicate with military air controllers all the
time in the process of doing low approaches to airbases, although
actually landing at a military base is generally not done except in an
emergency because of all the permissions you need to get in order to
take off again.
The SR-71 has been flown to airshows, (e.g. "Oshkosh" 1989) although the
versions of the "LA speed check" story that I recall imply that this
particular mission was a training/proficiency flight not flying to or
from an airshow. During cruise an SR-71 does not normally talk to air
traffic control because the requirement to do so ends at a pressure
altitude of 60,000 feet (or "flight level 600") and it flies so fast
that the guy in back would have no time to do anything but tune the
radios, but VFR pilots can request services from an ARTCC and they will
be handled on a "workload available" basis.
Since I don't know that I can convince you, maybe we should just end
this conversation here. I'll refrain from commenting further if I
don't have any additional thing to add.
On 4/7/23 06:08, Keith Dutson via BVARC wrote:
Let me re-phrase that. Military personnel are not allowed these
communications. Military aircraft being flown on non-military missions
are normally piloted by civilians. For example, once at Hooks airport
there were several Osprey aircraft that landed. These planes were
being delivered to a military base.
One key point that the YouTube story is fake is that an SR-71 landed
at an air show. If you learn more about this particular plane, you
will find that it leaks fuel on the flight line, which requires
special support. Plus, a special starter is required to get the
engines fired up. At Beale, each plane was assigned a ground support
team of about 200 people for support. This is why the SR-71 was
stationed at only one air base in the USA.
I learned this from a publication provided by the USAF National
Museum, of which I am a Friends member.
On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 12:35:07 AM CDT, Rick Wannall via BVARC
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Military aircraft talk to the same air traffic controllers as
everybody else does.
Thank you.
RW
*From:* BVARC <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jonathan
Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC
*Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2023 22:01
*To:* Keith Dutson via BVARC <[email protected]>
*Cc:* Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [BVARC] SR-71 Blackbird
Not at all true. Military aircraft talk to the same air traffic
controllers as everybody else does. There's no other way to integrate
them in to the stream of air traffic, and military aircraft use civil
airports all the time.
On 4/6/23 21:21, Keith Dutson via BVARC wrote:
Cute story, but totally contrived. Military aircraft are not
allowed to communicate with non-military stations.
73, Keith NM5G
On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 04:57:56 PM CDT, Dwayne Jones via
BVARC <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Yes LA speed story is funny too.
Dwayne
KB5YTA
On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 3:03 PM Douglas Kimpel via BVARC
<[email protected]> wrote:
Have you heard this one?
(28) The LA Speed Story (2020) - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3xaF1sT90U>
*Douglas Kimpel*
Chief Engineer
KKHT, KNTH
Houston,Texas
713-260-6129 Office
713-206-2146 Cell
*From:*BVARC <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *mark
janzer via BVARC
*Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2023 1:45 PM
*To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
*Cc:* mark janzer <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [BVARC] SR-71 Blackbird
Now that's funny. Thanks for sharing...
On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 11:23:02 AM CDT, Dwayne Jones
via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
Nice little video about a SR-71 Blackbird buzzing the tower
near his air base.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTJYNq4GQAE&ab_channel=TAOFLEDERMAUS
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTJYNq4GQAE&ab_channel=TAOFLEDERMAUS>
Dwayne
KB5YTA
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