In a previous thread, Robert wrote:

>At what price-point is worth our while to simply purchase 
>refurbished machines?

> WITS is selling pallets of PIIIs like the classroom machines for 
> $20 per machine[1]. They have a minimum of 800 MHz CPU, 128 MB RAM, 
> 10 GB HDD, 10/100 NIC, video, sound, USB2. The ones I looked at had 
> 20 GB drives.
> They have been tested and are ready to go except for an OS.
> [1] If you purchase an entire pallet it works out to about $12 per 
> machine.

I am in absolute favor of researching the idea of purchasing PCs from
WITS, or EPC or other computer re-sellers that sell "naked" PCs.

I called EPC in St. Charles several months ago, and received a price
of ~$70 for significantly better PCs than the ones that Robert
mentioned.  If we can mitigate this price with a donation from EPC or
other grants, then I can see Byteworks doubling the number of students
that we teach, as well as providing them with machines that will be
usable for a longer time than the ones we're providing now.

This will not obviate the need for the shop-side of Byteworks.  We
will still need the shop to process the purchased computers, install
software, and still take in donated computers.  In fact, I could see
the need for *more* shop volunteers due to the increased amount of
throughput.

There would be a lot of work in buying the computers, installing
software, finding peripherals, etc..  In addition, I bet we'd get a
fair amount of DOA computers that we'd have to take back, even from
vendors like WITS.  This would need to be taken into consideration.

There is a definite price-point that I would like to identify, and I
will bring it up at the next board meeting.  If we could double our
student throughput, we could make a great case for getting more grants
as well.

I would appreciate thoughts, especially from our shop volunteers about
the issues we'd have to consider if we would buy some of our
computers.  I think it's in Byteworks best interest to continue to
take donated computers/equipment.  It is very valuable to maintain a
community relationship where people can see their donations going
towards a worthy cause.

We've discussed this before, but it would be nice to get a refresher
on the subject.  Please throw any links to prior discussions onto this
conversation if that would help.

Thanks,

--Nate

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