On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> Note  too that  when  you leave  that  long,  it is  customary  to leave  an
> autoresponder.

Not everybody cares to publish their vacation plans for everybody in the
world (including potential burglars) to see.

> That does not  explain why you have  yet to answer my mail  asking nicely if
> you  would  care  to  add  a  pointer  to my  patches  to  a  file  in  your
> distribution,  or  your web  page  (that  was  after  you said  you  weren't
> interested in including them, which I'll  repeat is ok, I never got offended
> by that)

By policy, we do not advertise any third-party patches.  We can not accept
such liability.  There are many third-party patches, and it is the
responsibility of their authors

If you feel "brushed-off", that is your problem.

> So no, it's not "a long series of patches which have the notion of of
> restricting a users' file naming access..."

Yes it is.  Your patch is merely one of perhaps dozens such patches by
many people (myself included), with similar purpose, which have been
posted on the lists or newsgroups, emailed to me as suggestions, or even
written by me for someone.  I even posted a "if you want to do something
like this, here is the type of this you should do in your patch" message.

I am sorry if you felt that you had an original idea that nobody had
thought of before.  You didn't.

Nor were you the most recent person in the series.  You were just one of
many.

> > The first such patch was written by me over 10 years
> > ago, and I have written several others for people who asked me nicely.
> 1) it wasn't in the distribution, so not very useful

I did not want to support any of those patches, and I do not incorporate
*any* patches which I do not want to support.

The new code in imap-2002 is something that I decided can be supported.

> 3) you made no  mention of that when I Emailed  you. Your answer amounted to
>    "thank  you for  your  submission,  I'm not  interested  in including  or
>    bundling these  patches, and I'm  not interesting  in linking to  them or
>    mentioning them in my documentation"

I did not incorporate your patch.  I wrote new code.  The fact that it
does something similar is covered in the free-fork license:

 (5) the University of Washington may make modifications to the
 Distribution that are substantially similar to modified versions of
 the Distribution, and may make, use, sell, copy, distribute, publicly
 display, and perform such modifications, including making such
 modifications available under this or other licenses, without
 obligation or restriction;

Even when I reject a patch, I keep notes about the type of functionality
that people write patches to implement.  I use these notes (or "suggestion
box" if you prefer) to guide me when I implement new functionalities.

As it so happens, I recently completed a security project in imap-2002,
and thus all security-related suggestions were considered during that
development cycle.

> The last two people I talked to about submitting patches to you told me both
> "good luck". Coincidence?

I accept only a small number of non-bugfix related patches.

Some people would call that "quality control."

-- Mark --

http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.

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