On May 25, 2005, at 9:12 AM, Neil Graham wrote:

Hi all,

If one of the outcomes of moving Xerces to a TLP was to engender closer co-operation--or at least better understanding--between the subprojects,
separating commit lists wouldn't seem to be the best way of achieving
this. Also, with a fair cross-section of the active committers active as PMC members--who have to monitor all commits--I'm not sure how many folks
would benefit from this, even in principle.

Hi Neil,

Commit emails are a fairly in-your-face way of engendering communication between subprojects. Sort of like working for family harmony by requiring everybody to inform all family members before they visit the bathroom.

As I mentioned earlier, it's quite easy to subscribe to multiple lists if you want all the commits, and even (given mail client technology) to integrate all these messages back into one mailbox, if you really want to do so. But given that there's no overlap between the codebases of the projects, it really makes sense for it to come as multiple mail streams.

Separating the streams wouldn't hurt anybody who wants all the commits, and would greatly benefit anybody who wants only half of them. My commit-emails box for xerces holds mail back through 2003, at present. About 4000 emails. 1500 of those are for java, and I've never read more than the subject of any of them. Except for the time recently when I saw something about xerces 2.7 and got confused, thinking it was about xerces c ;) Does this encourage understanding, or simply add to information overload?

A better way of getting understanding between the subprojects might be a semi-regular (monthly?) summary about what they're each up to, sent to each of the mailing lists. Information like that is at a higher semantic level and far more likely to be appreciated and understood.

-jdb

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