At 06:01 2007-04-23, saint_sicarii wrote: >--- In [email protected], Thomas Hruska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Never used XCode but know it is Apple's new way of developing stuff for > > their platform. The point of XCode though is easy GUI widget coding > > stuff _for Mac only_. When starting out on C/C++, you probably don't > > want to mess with the GUI or it'll confuse you and it will make getting > > help that much harder. > > > >It does get confusing using the GUI IDE... > > > LISP and Smalltalk are _ancient_. Tell your professors that. > > Eclipse is designed more for Java development and is just IDE/Editor. > > No compiler as far as I know. > > > >I think that they know they are ancient, but they are still part of >a lot of AI/Computer >Science/Computer Engineering cirriculum... Lots of InSipid >Parenthasis (LISP)... > > > Putting that aside, you are going to want a good _debugger_ for C/C++. > > The best debugger on the market today is buried in Visual Studio .NET > > 2003/2005. Microsoft gives away VC++ .NET 2005 Express for free from > > their website and it includes the debugger you'll want (the .NET part is > > just a "brand name", native EXEs are generated from VC++ Express unless > > you explicitly start messing with the Managed/Unmanaged .NET runtime > > interfaces). > > > > If Microsoft products aren't your thing and you want cross-platform > > portability, there's wxDev C++ (wxWidgets + dialog designer + Dev-C++), > > which is pretty good but the debugger is significantly weaker (uses some > > flavor of ported gdb). > > > >Thanks, I will probably go with the wxDev C++, as I am none too fond >of microsoft, plus it >is a pain right now to run, since I do not yet have Windows >installed via Parallels or >bootCamp yet > > > Get some good books to learn from. I offer a free book to c-prog > > members called Safe C++ Design Principles (see the Files section) that > > is well worth reading. Victor Wagner has a list of books as well. The > > things you learn in class will not be nearly as valuable as the stuff > > you pick up from this group and the good books you read. > > > >This is pretty much what my best professors has said. She >recommended that I explore the >web for groups... It worked for my interest in robotics, although I >need to re-subscribe to >the Yahoo robotics groups that I used to belong to. She also >mentioned reading and >playing with as many compilers, debuggers and C++ utilities as I >can, and to pick one or >two to get really good with (She is no big fan of Visual Studio >actually, but it is what the >school has picked - or got a deal on I figure)
Visual Studio right now is the best compiler for windows (most conformant) and the debugger is non pariel (sp) >I will check out the Safe C++ Design Principles in the Files section >(Free is hard to beat) > >Matthew > > > > -- > > Thomas Hruska > > CubicleSoft President > > Ph: 517-803-4197 > > > > *NEW* VerifyMyPC 2.5 > > Change tracking and management tool. > > Reduce tech. support times from 2 hours to 5 minutes. > > > > http://www.CubicleSoft.com/VerifyMyPC/ > > > > > > >To unsubscribe, send a blank message to ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Victor A. Wagner Jr. http://rudbek.com The five most dangerous words in the English language: "There oughta be a law"
