--- "Victor A. Wagner Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Herring wrote:
> > On 5/26/07, Victor A. Wagner Jr.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   
> >> Ray Devore wrote:
> >>     
> >>> --- chipaug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>       
> > [...]
> >   
> >>>>> #include <iostream>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> using namespace std;
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
> >>> The above statement is not necessary since you
> are
> >>> using std:: in the code below.  Using the std::
> with
> >>> the appropriate items makes for cleaner code. 
> When
> >>> you use "using namespace std;" you have
> destroyed the
> >>> reason for doing a namespace in the first place.
>  You
> >>> also get things from the namespace that you do
> not
> >>> expect.
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> I'm gonna disagree with you here.  cluttering
> your code with std:: is
> >> just that...cluttering your code
> >> and   using namespace std; does NOT destroy the
> reason for namespaces.
> >> If it did, it would hardly be part of the
> language.
> >> your assertion that you get things that you do
> not expect is also
> >> somewhat of an overstatement.  That kind of
> problem comes up only when
> >> you put such things in header files.
> >>     
> >
> > Could we have your thoughts on the answer to C++
> FAQ 27.5  Victor?
> >
> >
>
http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/coding-standards.html#faq-27.5
> >   
> yup, FUD.
> read Item59 of "C++ Coding Standards" by Sutter and
> Alexandrescu... .I 
> quote the 1st paragraph under *Discussion*
> 
> In short: You can and should use namespace *using*
> declarations and 
> directives liberally /in your implementation files
> after *#include* 
> directives/ and feel good about it.  Despite
> repeated assertions to the 
> contrary, namspace *using* declarations and
> directives are not evil and 
> they do not defeat the purpose of namespaces. 
> Rather, they are what 
> make namespaces usable.
> 
OK, but you do not need to do "using namespace std;"
and use "std::" as the original code had.  That was my
main point.  The rest was just my rant.
Ray


       
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