Today you don't need to write the code for XYZ before you can do XYZ

Now the framework comes with interactive language which presents a GUI Layer 
which isolate you from syntax and provides the basic features expected from a 
programming language (GUI, Console, Variables, Control Structure, Arrays, 
Functions, Procedures, Classes, Objects, Database,...etc) 
So the sky is the limit !

You say "Coding without code, let the author of this tool do your work for free"
And this mean that you think of my project as another code generation tool 
which is not true
i cann't say that my project will write the code for you, and this is not my 
project plan at all
just the project isolate you from the syntax and help you to be more productive

Thanks for interactive response, and i hope that you interest in my project 
So i can get more feedback from you based on your experience in software 
development domain

Greetings,
Mahmoud


----- Original Message ----
From: Thomas Hruska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:27:57 AM
Subject: Re: [c-prog] Article on codeproject - Hello world without coding

MAHMOUD SAMIR wrote:
> Yes there are a lot of steps (less than 20) for "hello world" program
> This is the bad new !

Then why bother demonstrating it? If something is bad then, logically, 
a person wouldn't want to demonstrate it. And the rest of us don't want 
to see yet another "hello world" program rehash. Most of us have seen 
so many "hello world" programs, we feel ill when we see another one.

> But you don't need to do more than these steps for "huge" programs
> This is the good new!

You should have demonstrated this instead with an actual "huge program" 
(your definition of a "huge program" probably differs significantly from 
mine). No one wants to see 20 steps for a "hello world" program. Do 
something practical, useful, and interesting and then people will 
listen. "Hello world" is not practical, useful, nor interesting. It 
never has and it never will be.

Show some _real_ database interaction or a _real_ socket interface or a 
_real_ video game or, well, pretty much anything but "hello world". 
What I mean by "real" is no hand-waving. Last time you said, "Sure you 
can do XYZ but you'll have to write the code for XYZ before you can do 
XYZ." If you want your project to succeed, you're going to have to 
write a lot of code you don't want to write. Your motto for the next 
few years is going to have to be something like, "Coding without code - 
let the author of this tool do all your work for free!"

> My article just published from little hours, and i need to wait some days to 
> determine 
> The response of the readers 

Here's what the response will be: The same as last time. Only probably 
more harsh since it still looks a lot like the previous project. CP'ers 
tend to get annoyed when someone posts the same project twice.

CP is not a friendly place where a person can post articles with 
impunity. The people there, particularly the old-timers and moderators, 
have had so much cruft tossed at them over the years, they take their 
positions in the community a tad too seriously - but that does help keep 
the quality of the articles very high. Even I am generally fearful of 
the wrath of those on CP.

> As i get help & information from others over the internet
> i like to present somthing to them , in english language (which is not my 
> mother language)

Your English seems to have improved slightly since last time.

> with respect to CP Votes, i am sure that it will increase soon (As my project 
> page on sourceforge
> are active over 99.25% and the download increase rapidly )
> 
> There is no need to talk about personal side(You talked about my education, 
> and not notice that 
> i am Electronics Engineer and *Electronics* related to hardware which is 
> different than "Software*)

Software and hardware anymore are interrelated and even most hardware 
these days is mostly just software components embedded into various 
chipsets. The engineering courses here in the U.S. tend to be a 
difficult mix of both sides (software and hardware with a heavy focus on 
the former). Since you aren't exclusively a software developer _while_ 
claiming to know how software development of professional applications 
operates _while_ still being in school, those are all going to be 
additional strikes against your article. A CP profile is just as 
important as the article itself. I'm just telling you what other people 
are going to think. Nothing personal about it. Just trying to be helpful.

> Also, please remember that (Just a little advice)
> It's known that good developers respect software as mind production
> and they need to invest time to determine the value of the software.
> 
> i opened your site, at first i was not interested because of the old style of 
> the applications
> but i opened my mind and tried to look again, so i noticed the real value of 
> your good software

I am already fully aware that my website design is desperately in need 
of a redesign (it has been needing a redesign for at least two _years_ 
now). More stuff constantly gets bolted on and it is quickly turning 
into an ugly beast and probably already is from most user perspectives. 
I'm also aware the site design detracts from my product offerings. 
There isn't a whole lot I can do about it at the moment.

As to the applications themselves, yes, they do indeed need work. I've 
got version roadmaps for each product that are a mile long. I also 
publish the high-level focus roadmap so users can see what products are 
being worked on.

If anyone ever has suggestions for any product I've got, I'm always open 
to ideas. "If product X had feature Y, I'd buy a copy in a heartbeat." 
Fill in X and Y and send it to me (off-list).

-- 
Thomas Hruska
CubicleSoft President
Ph: 517-803-4197

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