victorherasme wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  I am a beginner (a civil engineer who needs to know programming) and
> i need to know what specific subjects i need to know in order to start
> using/programming/creating data structures. I have Deitel's book for
> example and i want to know if i have to read the 1200 pages before i
> begin. It is very important for me to start as soon as possible. All
> suggestions appreciated. Thanks,
> 
> victor 

Most programming books are designed to allow you to follow along.  The 
best way to do that is to get comfortable using a compiler.  The 
learning curve for _proficiency_ in C/C++ is typically several years 
although rudimentary programs are able to be created within the first month.


When you joined the group, you should have received the group welcome 
message. It contained information on how to find a compiler.

In general, beginners should have a compiler, IDE (Integrated 
Development Environment), and, most importantly, a debugger. The 
compiler suite should also be up to date and ANSI C/C++ Standards 
compliant. "Up to date" means that the compiler component itself was 
updated sometime in the last three years.

Finding a new compiler is quite easy. c-prog maintains a massive 'Links' 
section on its website. One of those sections is entitled "Compilers 
(free)":

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/c-prog/links/Compilers_000986587674/

There are hundreds of free compilers to choose from. However, there are 
just a handful that are popular, well supported, ANSI Standard, and free:

Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Express
wxDev-C++
MinGW
gcc/g++

C++ compilers are usually backwards-compatible and will also compile C 
code.  Of the compilers listed, Microsoft Visual C++ (including Express) 
currently has the best debugger on the planet - period.  If you are 
learning C/C++, the ability to step through code line by line and see 
what is wrong is invaluable.  Other compiler suites have debuggers but 
aren't nearly as good.

Should you choose to learn C++ using Microsoft Visual C++, the following 
video tutorial on using the IDE is highly recommended material:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/bb964629.aspx


There are two commercial (non-free) compilers worth mentioning as well. 
Compilers that are not free have to provide a LOT of added value to 
justify their cost.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Professional - In general, if you plan on 
doing Microsoft Windows-specific GUI development (e.g. involving COM, 
ATL, MFC, Office, Vista, etc.), this is the development suite to have. 
Many developers enhance the environment with third-party tools such as 
Visual Assist X.  Also, a number of popular open source projects (e.g. 
TortoiseSVN) will completely build only under the latest version of 
Visual Studio Professional.  Be prepared to pay Microsoft prices though.

Comeau C++ - This is the most ANSI Standards compliant compiler in 
existence. Period. And it is available for virtually every modern 
platform. They have an online code compiler so you can see if code that 
doesn't compile under your compiler, but should, will compile under theirs.


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