in reply to the below, i would like to say this. i am not really sure what subjects you had as part of your BCA course. and even then there is no guarantee that all the subjects you had as part of your syllabus would be useful in your future life. the various Bach courses are designed to provide you with tinges of every shade and colour of the palette. it helps you decide and move ahead in your career with a broad base of possiblities. i had courses on micro processors and digital electronics for example in my Bach. days but havent heard from them since I passed out i.e. i too think what use they had in my current life of being a software techie.
talking about interest created by profs and teachers, first of all you need to understand this. it is not the teachers' obligation to generate interest in something. it is your prerogative to learn, to understand what is being taught to you. rather than the other way round. why would you expect the teacher to create interest in something? you have to understand this. it is your duty to learn. and you are right as well. reading books have no substitute to be honest. self help funda. i honestly dont think you can blame the teachers. its a paradigm, a methodology which varies from person to person. there is an ideal way of doing it but then again you cannot decide whether someone follows it or not. talking about univs which have good teachers. i am pretty sure there are people out there who enjoy teaching and learning in the various renowned univs. you have to seek them out. they have no need to come to you. its your need to go to them. need to understand this. you want to take up learning programming languages. good. then go ahead. lots of univs offer similar subjects and courses as part of their degree curriculum. need to "google" them out. i need to point out few things there. first of all talking about the need of theory. again i point out that its your back up if i can call it so. then again no one is expected to teach you programming. thats how it happens in the various univs and technical institutes. you take up a degree course somewhere and you learn the various theory subjects which are taught to you, which might at the moment seem useless to you. teachers and profs give you assignments to do which can include programming. you are expected to complete them. there is this tacit understanding that you are supposed to do them. if you encounter problems you seek out people and sources which would help you overcome the obstacles. but then again the more time the programming assignments keep coming, the more you are expected to learn about the programming language and this subsequently means better programming skills. not one can teach you the intricacies of programming to be honest unless you devote time and interest to achieve this end. then again as i said earlier you can join professional institutes i.e. NIIT, Aptech to name a few to learn the same. please note i am not advertising the above brands and have used them just to provide examples. i am not even sure how good and serious these institutes are, when it comes to teaching you. so here again the onus is on you to learn. theory is the backup of programming if i can call it that. it provides you the confidence and backup to deal with situations. life as a software architect is not all about writing code. there s the design aspect of it for example where you have to use your foresight, and theory to design the hierarchy of data structures and logic flow in a particular situation. you dont learn about it directly maybe but the things you learn when you study the theory aspect help you design better. you form your base when you learn theory, which you then apply in situations. your intuition and your experience in previous situations helps you decide. thats how it works. i think you need to calm down and see the various options in front of you and then decide rather than panicking. regards, d minotaur ------------------ "the geek will rule the earth" On 5/13/08, bneha69 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for your reply.Sometimes I always think that the these theory > will give me some benefit.But what benefit,I didn't know.I studied > two subjects of maths and business practices in 1st sem.In 4th sem,I > studied accountacy .Can you tell me what the benefits of studying > these subjects?And don't you think the time that we spend on > studying these subjects should be spent on the subject of our > choice.I tell you my problem.The teachers who teach theory subjects > like computer system architecture,digital-electronics,system > analusis and design,software engineering don't have knowledge about > their subjects.They can not create interest in their subjects.They > make them even more and more bore.Don't think that the teachers who > teach practical subjects are very good.They are also like theory > subjects' teachers.Whatever I have learnt till now about theory or > practical,I learnt by myself from reading the books.But do you think > that anybody can achieve anuthing alone,without anybody's help.I am > ready to study theory subjects but from good teachers.Can you > suggest any institution or academy where I can get good teachers.I > want to get specialization in programming languages and then want to > work as a professional programmer in some company atleast for 10 > years and then teach programming languages to students.I don't know > I think about my future right or wrong.But I think so.And last > thing,I don't want to study programming languages not only for > earning money.I always keep money in my mind,not in my heart.And I > am not searching for any shortcut.I know that we cannot achieve > anything in one minute,in one hour or in one day.Everything takes > time. > If you please goto www.hclcdc.in > and suggest HCSE course good for me or not. > I am very much confused about my career. > Please,please,please help me. > Waiting for your reply. > Thank you so much. > On 5/14/08, John Gaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > bneha69 wrote: > > I am a BCA(Bachelor in Computer Application)student.I want to become a > > professional programmer.Can anyone suggest any course in which > > specialization is given in programming?I don't want to do MCA.Because > > I am not interested in theory subjects.I just only want to study > > programming languages.I am thinking about HCSE(HCL Certified Softwarre > > Engineering)course.Do you think that it is good to do this?Please > > guide me. > > > > I have a B.S. in Computer Science, and it taught a wide range of topics > including programming languages, theory of computing, discrete math, > software engineering, and of course general education/liberal arts. > Having worked in the "real world" for eight years now I see that while I > started out with an aptitude for programming, the degree taught a lot of > other useful skills necessary to succeed. > > Programming is only a portion of what you will do in a job. Project > management, technical designs, code review, testing, maintenance and > support, these are all areas in which you will need some level of > expertise. I highly recommend you at least start out with this type of > education. > > Later on if you want to focus in a specific area (e.g. programming > language theory) go for an M.S. in Computer Science. Most programs have > core classes but allow you some flexibility to choose an area of > specialty to include advanced classes and a thesis or project in an area > of your choosing. > > In my experience having an M.S. does not help much in terms of pay or > position (while I cannot prove it, the grapevine says my salary is > roughly equivalent to coworkers with a graduate degree in the same > position) but if YOU get something out of it and it makes YOU feel > better, then you accomplished something. I fully intend to go back for a > graduate degree of some sort, probably an M.S. even though I want a > Ph.D. (too expensive and time consuming if I want to pay my mortgage > too), just for the warm fuzzy feeling of being able to do some cool > projects that are not driven by the need to earn profits for some > corporation. Even though I love my job, I only have so much freedom to > do interesting things. At the end of the day we need to bill customers > so my company can pay the bills (including my salary). In an ivory > tower, you can do work that may not be profitable. > > -- > John Gaughan > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
