Hi Jan,

I found the following bug report for OpenSolaris Express Community
Edition, Build 59:
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6533668

and I found a similar report in the OpenSolaris forum:
http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=60203

The latter case is a bit different because the one reporting the bug
already has some data on the disk.

I never checked it myself on real hardware because I don't have a blank
hard disk here at the moment.

Kind regards,
Alexander Eichner

Am Donnerstag, den 20.11.2008, 19:57 +0100 schrieb jan damborsky:
> Hi Alexander,
> 
> thanks for the update !
> I have tried to reproduce that hang outside the installer
> and it can be also seen if I use Target Discovery test driver
> (it uses the same mechanism as installer for collecting
> the information about disk configuration).
> truss(1) shows that most of the time is being spent in ioctl
> system calls (I have attached complete truss output).
> 
> At this point it doesn't seem that the problem is related to
> the installer, but it is likely the hang is happening in device
> driver itself and can be triggered when empty SATA drive is
> attached to the VB guest and IO-APIC is left disabled.
> 
> You originally mentioned that similar hang could be also seen
> on real hardware - do you happen to know more details about that
> particular configuration or where it was being observed ?
> 
> Thank you,
> Jan
> 
> 
> Alexander Eichner wrote:
> > Hi Jan,
> >
> > tried with IO-APIC enabled and the problem is not reproducible anymore.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Alexander Eichner
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, den 19.11.2008, 16:42 +0100 schrieb jan damborsky:
> >> Hi Alexander,
> >>
> >>
> >> Alexander Eichner wrote:
> >>> Hi Jan,
> >>>
> >>> this issue doesn't happen always here.
> >>> But sometimes the installer hangs about 1 minute while detecting the
> >>> hard disk freezing the GUI completely.
> >>> It seems to happen here only if the hard disk is completely
> >>> uninitialized.
> >> Yes, I can reproduce this if new disk is created and attached as SATA.
> >>
> >>> I tested it also with 10 disks attached but they all had a partition
> >>> with ZFS and the installer detected them immediately (the spinning
> >>> circle didn't showed up).
> >>>
> >>> The guest configuration is:
> >>> RAM: 1024MB
> >>> ACPI: enabled
> >>> IO-APIC: disabled
> >> Could you please try if that hang can be seen with 'IO-APIC' enabled ?
> >> In my case, if I enable IO-APIC that hang disappears.
> >>
> >>
> >>> AMD-V/VT-x: disabled
> >>> PAE/NX: disabled
> >>>
> >>> My host is a Dell Inspiron 1520
> >>> RAM: 4GB
> >>> OS: 64bit Linux (Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex)
> >>>
> >>> I created a log of the installer with LS_DBG_LVL=4. It is attached to
> >>> this mail.
> >> Thanks ! William is looking at this - we can see the delays there.
> >> However,  they don't seem to be happening in the installer itself,
> >> but rather in underlying libdiskmgt library or device driver. Once
> >> it is more investigated, we would file bug for this.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Jan
> >>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Alexander Eichner
> >>>
> >>> Am Dienstag, den 18.11.2008, 18:28 +0100 schrieb jan damborsky:
> >>>> Hi Achim,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Achim Hasenmueller wrote:
> >>>>> I can reproduce the iostat -En issue (SATA is reported as ATA). I am 
> >>>>> not sure that this is what's causing the installer to take several 
> >>>>> minutes discovering the SATA disk.
> >>>> It is unlikely this is the reason why you see
> >>>> the installer hanging in disk discovery.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have upgraded from 2.0.2 to 2.0.4 and I am able to
> >>>> boot LiveCD in VB guest with SATA disk attached - now
> >>>> with VT-x/AMD-V enabled
> >>>> (fix for http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/2292 works fine)
> >>>> and install on SATA drive. I didn't encounter delay during
> >>>> the disk discovery phase as installer Disk screen was brought
> >>>> up almost immediately.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then I tried several combinations of VT-x/AMD-V, IO APIC,
> >>>> ... options and could see the delay when following configuration
> >>>> was used:
> >>>>
> >>>> ACPI: Enabled
> >>>> IO APIC: Disabled
> >>>> VT-x/AMD-v: Disabled
> >>>> PAE/NX: Enabled
> >>>>
> >>>> So it seems that the problem with hang might be specific
> >>>> to particular host/guest configuration or/and VB version.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you happen to know in which configuration you are seeing
> >>>> the hang ?
> >>>> Is there any difference if you enable 'IO APIC' or play
> >>>> with other options ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you,
> >>>> Jan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> If it is, I'd strongly suggest to get the fix into 2008.11.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Achim.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 18, 2008, at 3:15 PM, jan damborsky wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Achim, Alexander,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> as far as problem seen in VirtualBox is concerned, could you please
> >>>>>> provide more details about configuration you used when encountering
> >>>>>> that issue (HW, host operating system, how much memory you
> >>>>>> dedicated to the guest, other settings - VT-x/AMD-V,ACPI, ...) ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There were couple of SATA issues reported in 2.0.2, which are fixed
> >>>>>> in 2.0.4:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/2292
> >>>>>> http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/2182
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have tried to launch the installer on VB 2.0.2 guest (1GB memory)
> >>>>>> with one SATA disk attached and I haven't seen that hang in disk 
> >>>>>> discovery -
> >>>>>> Disk screen was displayed immediately.
> >>>>>> I haven't tried the installation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have used following configuration:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> host:
> >>>>>> -----
> >>>>>> HW: Lenovo Thinkpad X61 (4GB RWM)
> >>>>>> SW: OpenSolaris build 101a
> >>>>>> VB: 2.0.2
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> guest:
> >>>>>> ------
> >>>>>> base memory: 1024 MB
> >>>>>> OS Type: OpenSolaris
> >>>>>> ACPI: Enabled
> >>>>>> IO APIC: Enabled
> >>>>>> VT-x/AMD-v: disabled (workaround for bug 2292)
> >>>>>> PAE/NX: Enabled
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> With respect to problems with SATA disk discovery hanging on bare 
> >>>>>> metal,
> >>>>>> do you happen to know, which HW configuration might be suffering
> >>>>>> from this issue ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> William Schumann wrote:
> >>>>>>> There are two separate bugs that are addressing problems with 
> >>>>>>> library libdiskmgt correctly reporting type on SATA drives for real 
> >>>>>>> hardware:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 6558646 DM_CTYPE attribute is set to "unknown" for SATA controllers 
> >>>>>>> handled by "sata" driver
> >>>>>>> http://monaco.sfbay/detail.jsf?cr=6558646
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> auto-installer can not identify SATA disk type (most likely a 
> >>>>>>> duplicate of the former)
> >>>>>>> http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=4387
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The former has been in the 'accept' state since June.  If libdiskmgt 
> >>>>>>> bugs are now affecting VirtualBox, they should perhaps be escalated 
> >>>>>>> (currently P3).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I will inquire about status of fixes for libdiskmgt - they are not 
> >>>>>>> presently being handled by the install group.
> >>>>>>> William Schumann
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dave Miner wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Vincent Murphy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Achim,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Best person to contact is Dave Miner - however, I would also send 
> >>>>>>>>> mail to indiana-eng as this may be a known issue. If not then 
> >>>>>>>>> raise a bug :-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Achim, Alexander:  William Schumann on the install team is the best 
> >>>>>>>> person to work with on disk discovery issues; he's in Prague and 
> >>>>>>>> should be back in the office tomorrow since today's a holiday 
> >>>>>>>> there.  I've copied him.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I believe I've seen this issue, though I rarely have used SATA in 
> >>>>>>>> my vbox instances, and I'm not aware of any existing bug reports 
> >>>>>>>> related to it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>> Vincent
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 11/17/08 12:46, Achim Hasenmueller wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Vincent,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> when installing OpenSolaris (2008.5 or .11) in a VirtualBox VM 
> >>>>>>>>>> with a SATA disk configured for the VM, the installer takes 
> >>>>>>>>>> several minutes to discover the disk.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We have been trying to debug this from our end but without 
> >>>>>>>>>> success. Also we have found reports on the web about people 
> >>>>>>>>>> having the same issue with physical hardware. Therefore, we now 
> >>>>>>>>>> need help from the OS team. Who in your team could Alexander work 
> >>>>>>>>>> with?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>> -- 
> >>>>>>>>>> Achim Hasenmueller
> >>>>>>>>>> Director Engineering, VirtualBox
> >>>>>>>>>> Sun Microsystems GmbH
> >>>>>>>>>> Werkstrasse 24
> >>>>>>>>>> 71384 Weinstadt, Germany
> >>>>>>>>>> phone: +49 7151 604050
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >
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