Jean McCormack wrote:
> Jean McCormack wrote:
>> Dave Miner wrote:
>>> Jean McCormack wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We have an interesting problem on the SMF work with respect to 
>>>> enabling the SMF service when commands are run.
>>>>
>>>> The general premise we've been working under is that if no install 
>>>> services are "on" then the SMF service should be in maintenance.
>>>
>>> "when the SMF service is enabled", of course.
>>>
>>>> Also, all command should cause an attempt to enable the SMF service 
>>>> when they are executed.
>>>>
>>>> Our problem:
>>>> If the SMF service is enabled when running a command like 
>>>> create_service or enable and there are no install services "on" we 
>>>> go into maintenance mode and can't enable the service or create it. 
>>>> Chicken and the egg problem.
>>>> - We want the service to go into maintenance  and the command to 
>>>> error out if a dependency is unfulfilled. But not if if there are no 
>>>> "on" install services.
>>>
>>> I don't understand the "but not..." here.  If it's enabled with no 
>>> install services enabled, then the general premise stated earlier 
>>> would seem to dictate it goes to maintenance.
>>>
>>>> - We don't want this behavior if we are creating/enabling the first 
>>>> install service.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see the problem; why can't you create the install service, 
>>> then enable the SMF service?
> Sorry. I missed this on my last reply. Wouldn't we want to attempt to 
> enable the SMF service immediately? That way if
> we have any dependency issues that send us into maintenance we would 
> know and not continue trying to create the
> service.

IMO a request to create-service needs to create the service regardless.
If the dependency chain isn't fulfilled, that's a subsequent action that
can be acknowledged and rectified outside of the install service
creation.


-ethan

> 
> If this statement is false, then we  could do what you say and I believe 
> we have no issues.
> 
> Jean
> 
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We've come up with 2 solutions to this and would like feedback on 
>>>> them today.
>>>>
>>>> Solution 1: Put the SMF service into degrade status not maintenance 
>>>> if there are no install services in "on". This would not be 
>>>> considered an error to exit a command from and the service would be 
>>>> enabled if the command succeeds.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Degraded is really not implemented in any useful way in the SMF 
>>> machinery at this point.  I would discourage using it.
>>>
>>>> Solution 2: Currently the modification of the status information is 
>>>> at the end of the create_service/enable functions. We could move 
>>>> this to the beginning of the functions and create a 3rd state for 
>>>> status (enabling ???) to differentiate from a full enable. Obviously 
>>>> all error conditions that exit would need to clean up by changing 
>>>> the status back to off or deleting the property group.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This doesn't seem necessary.  I would think that there's the state of 
>>> each install service (enabled or disabled) and, separately, there's 
>>> the state of the SMF service.  The latter governs whether any install 
>>> services can be used, while the former merely provides a specific 
>>> sub-state for each individual install service.  If you create or 
>>> enable an install service, then either enable or clear (should you 
>>> find the install SMF service in maintenance) the SMF service, won't 
>>> you get the desired behavior?
>>>
>>> Dave
>> I'll try to communicate this better with an example.
>>
>> 1)install/server:default is in maintenance. We have no install 
>> services enabled.
>> 2)The user types installadm create-service. This is supposed to 
>> enable/clear install/server:default.
>> 3)When we enter the installadm code we immediately try to enable/clear 
>> the install/server service.
>> 4)We have no install services enabled yet. In fact we have no services.
>> 5)install/server:default goes into maintenance.
>> 6) Code exits and prints error message.
>>
>> Jean
>>
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