On 04/15/09 18:21, Ethan Quach wrote:
>
> jan damborsky wrote:
>>
>> The temporary fix suggests to 'lock' that file by the service which
>> accessed it first and 'release' it once service along with AI image
>> is deleted. I agree there are issues with this approach.
>>
>>>
>>> DHCP config is totally secondary.  A user who just moderately knows
>>> what they are doing can subsequently manually add IP addresses 
>>> associated
>>> with the service_2 macro created above.
>>
>> I am not sure we could expect the user to take care of this. My feeling
>> is that if there are steps required which can't be either accomplished
>> by installadm(1M) tools itself or by copy-paste of the output those 
>> tools
>> produced we shouldn't support/allow such scenario.
>
> I'm not suggesting that we're pushing anything to the user.  I'm 
> suggesting
> that it's possible that a keen user could intentionly not issue -i -c, 
> knowing
> he/she is going to manually do it later because they just want to.

I see - I got it now :-)

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> service_1 will continue to be used by default (if 'create-client' 
>>>> is not
>>>> called).
>>>>
>>>> Mismatch doesn't occur.
>>>>
>>>> [2] installadm create-service -n service_2 -i <IP_start_2> -c 
>>>> <IP_pool_size_2>
>>>>    -s <ai_iso_2> <ai_image_2>
>>>>
>>>> * /etc/netboot/wanboot.conf will still point to service_1 boot 
>>>> archive.
>>>> * two disjoint sets of IP pools will be available
>>>>  one for service_1 associated with service_1 dhcp macro,
>>>>  one for service_2 associated with service_2 dhcp macro
>>>>
>>>> New client connected to the network would obtain boot archive from 
>>>> image_1,
>>>> but I am not sure how DHCP server behaves in this situation - from 
>>>> which
>>>> pool it will assign IP address ? Is this deterministic/supported 
>>>> scenario ?
>>>
>>> Nope, its random.  A client can be given an IP of either pool.
>>>
>>> Its not a deterministic scenario.  I've yelled about this before, 
>>> but its
>>> apparently a designed usage case.
>>
>>
>> Is it captured somewhere to take a look at ? To be honest,
>> I am not sure how it might be useful for client since it
>> is not known what it is going to boot.
>
> You are preaching to the quire :-)
>
> I think the usage scenarios are at the end of the design doc.  In a
> nut shell, from what I recall, the usage case was:
>
>     Admin wants to quickly set up 20 machines for his class.  10 machines
>     will be installed with X, 10 machines will be installed with Y.  
> Admin
>     doesn't care which machines installs X and which installs Y.  Admin
>     does two create-service calls, one for X and one for Y, each with 
> their
>     own -i -c.  Admin does "boot net" for all 20 machines.  Done.

To be honest, this one seems a little bit artificial, but to tell the truth
my admin experience is really limited.

>
>
> (And obviously from this bug, one of those sparc services will get a
> mismatched boot archive ;-) )
>
> Putting aside our opinion of its usefulness for a bit, I think a part
> why we're here now is because this scenario is least worked properly
> for x86.  When sparc came along, we didn't reevaluate whether it
> actually worked for sparc.

I agree - in current implementation (based on how wanboot works and what
it allows), that scenario can't be accomplished for Sparc.

Thank you,
Jan


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