On Dec 5, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote:

> Kevin Fox wrote:
>> On Dec 5, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Dave Miner wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Kevin Fox wrote:
>>>
>>>> We understand Indiana has a hard requirement to be tailored  
>>>> down  to  fit on a CD media.
>>>> We will be deploying a Solaris router appliance project in the   
>>>> next  few weeks that uses
>>>> Quagga with Zones as well as a Webmin interface that provides   
>>>> initial  Live media configuration
>>>> (see http://opensolaris.org/os/project/vnm/VirtualRouter/).
>>>> Up until this point we have been using xVM as a prototyping    
>>>> environment, and have recently
>>>> setup an augmented Indiana release with all our components so  
>>>> we  can  leverage the Live
>>>> media environment as well as the gui-install for instantiating   
>>>> the  trial configuration on a local
>>>> drive.  Cool stuff :-)
>>>> Unfortunately, xVM support is not available in Indiana,  
>>>> obviously   pruned because of space
>>>> requirements.  This is meant to be a router development kit,  
>>>> so   creating separate domains that
>>>> can feed a router domain for testing/debugging/prototyping   
>>>> without  having to locate/install
>>>> other isolated hardware is very important.
>>>>
>>> Actually, it wasn't necessarily a space issue, it was more that  
>>> we  needed to settle on a package list earlier and didn't have  
>>> time to  re-evaluate it with xVM.  It might actually fit, have  
>>> you tried it?  We'd be interested in the results since that's  
>>> something we do have  to look into before too long.
>>>
>>
>> Interesting ... It may fit without our additional components, but   
>> we've managed to eliminate
>> just about every remaining kilobyte of headroom so co-existence  
>> would  be difficult without
>> eliminating other Indiana components.  If there's a short-list of   
>> questionable packages in your
>> package list I'd be very interested in knowing what those  
>> candidates  might be.  In any case,
>> we'll take a hard look at what's there and let you know if we can   
>> find a decent compromise,
>> at least for our application ....
>>
>>
> There are very few things that can be removed.  What is the total  
> size of the pkgs you plan to add to the image ?    I had taken a  
> quick stab at this at one point, and IIRC, including domu' would  
> not be much but once one drags the vert* tools, size increases  
> rapidly.

We haven't done the xVM analysis yet ... but the components we add,  
the Webmin/Quagga
packages, two pre-initialized zones and the remaining misc files and  
drivers, take up approximately
71mb.  They have been squeezed kist about as far as we can go, so  
there's little doubt that we
would need to eliminate some other components from the distro to make  
room for us along
side xVM.

Worse case we will simply go the DVD route, but not without trying an  
initial stab.  If you know
of some potential candidates that would be valuable to know ...

Kev

>
>
> -Sanjay
>
>>>> To that end, we are considering looking into adding the pava-   
>>>> virtualized xVM modules into the
>>>> Indiana image, so will probably need to move to DVD media to    
>>>> accommodate the necessary space
>>>> requirements.
>>>> Question: Are there any known "technical" problems with moving    
>>>> Indiana to DVD?
>>>>
>>> No, shouldn't be any issues; the live CD work is based off the   
>>> OpenSolaris Live Media project, which was all DVD's.
>>>
>>
>> Cool ... that's what our assumption was, but it seemed prudent to  
>> get  an opinion from someone
>> closer to the distribution.  Much appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks Dave
>> Kev
>>
>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
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