On Jan 15, 2008 11:55 PM, John Sonnenschein <johnsonnenschein at gmail.com> 
wrote:
>
> On 15-Jan-08, at 9:20 PM, Shawn Walker wrote:
>
> > On Jan 15, 2008 11:10 PM, John Sonnenschein <johnsonnenschein at gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >> forgive me if this has been discussed before, I couldn't find mention
> >> of it in the archives...
> >>
> >> What's the problem with having an installer option such as "advanced"
> >> somewhere in the user setup section that would allow a user to choose
> >> what the default environment will be
> >
> > This has been discussed before, at the Summit in fact.
> >
> > The short of it is that an advanced installation path quickly gets
> > complicated.
>
> Hence the name.

Stating the obvious isn't useful.

I wasn't stating the obvious.

I should have been clearer: "an advanced installation path quickly
gets needlessly complex and ruins the overall installer usually."

> > You start with one installation option, and before you know it, you
> > end up with a thousand.
>
> hyperbole. last time I installed redhat they had an advanced path that
> wasn't bad

I don't agree.

> > Dave and his team, from what I gather, are focused on a simple, great
> > install experience foremost.
>
> then they have failed before they started. removing all possibility
> for options as a design decision is failure to create a great install
> experience.

I don't agree.

Apple and GNOME do the same thing all the time and the same
accusations are flung at them.

Yet, they are successful.

> > That is what they have the need for.
> >
> > While Dave may not be personally interested nor have the time (due to
> > resource allocation) to support a more "advanced installation path",
> > from talking with him, it is clear that they have intentionally left
> > "hooks" in the install code so that others can implement this
> > functionality if they so desire.
> >
> > Remember that caiman is just an installer, it doesn't know anything
> > about "GNU" or "BSD" for that matter.
> >
> > You need to talk with the distributions using the installer if you
> > want to influence choices they are making.
> >
> >> the only other option I can see is to fork indiana to get a legacy-
> >> compatible version
> >
> > Or just use the distribution constructor...not difficult.
>
> that /is/ a fork.

I don't agree.

-- 
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/

"To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." -
Robert Orben

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