Willie Walker wrote:
> The reliance upon the notification area for the sole interaction with 
> a service is a bummer.  Ideally, there would be some other mechanism, 
> such as a menu item under the System menu.
WRT the DDU, there is one now. It will bring up the same window as the 
notification would.
>
> However, as long as one can interact with the object via the keyboard, 
> the user can have some level of access.  So, for the NWAM GUI:
>
> 1) The notification message should result in an accessibility event 
> being emitted.  Orca can pick these up and at least read them.  
> (Though we should test with NWAM to be sure).
Does the notification have to code the accessibility event or is this 
(thought) to be built into the notification mechanism.
>
> 2) The user can press Ctrl+Alt+Tab to get to the top panel.
>
> 3) The user can press some squirrelly sequence of Tab and the arrow 
> keys to eventually fight their way to the notification area.  I never 
> get it right the first time, but I usually can fight my way over there 
> eventually.
>
> 4) Due to notification-area specific issues in GNOME (icons cannot be 
> given names in this dastardly beast), the user needs to press Ctrl+F1 
> to bring up the tooltip for the icon to make sure it is the NWAM icon. 
> Otherwise, all they hear is "icon".
>
> 5) When they are sure they are on the NWAM icon, the user can press 
> Shift+F10 to bring the context menu up for NWAM.  In there, they can 
> arrow up and down to select networks and bring up the configuration 
> dialog.
>
> I find the above a rather uncompelling and inefficient experience (and 
> likely horrible for a keyboard-only user who is inefficient with the 
> keyboard), but it is at least accessible because it doesn't require 
> the mouse as the sole means to interact with the application.
>
> Will
>
> Frank Ludolph wrote:
>> Calum Benson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 22 Sep 2009, at 18:04, Frank Ludolph wrote:
>>>
>>>> The accessibility of notifications would seem a significant hole in 
>>>> GNOME desktop accessibility that affects NWAM and all other 
>>>> application/system functions that use notification.
>>>
>>> It is, so we've had to try and avoid the 'click this message' type 
>>> of balloons in the NWAM Phase 1 GUI design, and just use them for 
>>> strictly informational purposes[1].  (Or at least, avoid them as the 
>>> only way of initiating some action, which was a trap we fell into 
>>> with Phase 0.5).
>>>
>>> Cheeri,
>>> Calum.
>>>
>>> [1] If the current Ubuntu notification work goes upstream, this is 
>>> the only kind of notification messages that will be allowed in 
>>> future anyway, which should hopefully simplify the accessibility 
>>> picture somewhat: <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD>
>>>
>> So how is the "click-this-message" being avoided in NWAM phase 1? On 
>> scanning the NotifyOSD it appears that the proper way would be to 
>> post a morphing alert box, which I don't think is implemented in 
>> GNOME, or the alternative, an alert box. We would want to post the 
>> alert in the foreground since bringing it up in the background, as 
>> suggested, might not get it noticed until too late (after an install).
>>
>> Frank
>


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