On 24/09/2009, at 2:06 PM, Glenn Brunette wrote:

>
> I am sorry if I am coming in late to the discussion, but I had a few  
> cycles and wanted to ask a few questions.

No late discussions - just current ones ;)

>> - Drivers
>> - All included unless reason not to (IB, iSCSI, FC, ...)
>
> Does this mean that all drivers will be installed by default?  Is  
> there
> any way to separate these out?  Virtualized platforms may not need  
> many
> of the drivers that are installed by default today.
>
> I realize that there is a tradeoff here.  We want things to just be  
> able
> to work, but if we are putting together an absolute core set of  
> packages
> that people could potentially use as the base for minimized
> installations, (virtual or physical) appliances, etc. - then it  
> would be
> nice to have a true core set of drivers that can be supplemented as
> needed.  With the advent of the network package repo, installing new
> drivers is not as painful as it used to be ;-)

We could probably be smart about what we include for sure. The general  
consensus with the LiveCD has been to include as much as we possibly  
can. I guess we may be able to change things based on the discussions  
around the device driver update work that's going on.

>> - Non graphical device driver utility
>> - Enough to get basics working out of the box
>> - ZFS, CIFS, COMSTAR
>
> I would say that even CIFS/COMSTAR may be too much for a "Core"  
> although
> my definition of core is closer to the Solaris 10 view of  
> SUNWCmreq.  We
> have a lot of customers who want to build minimal configurations and  
> if
> this is not the place that is fine, but I would like to make sure that
> anything done would not inhibit work to put a smaller footprint in  
> place
> at some point.  Thoughts?

  I think that's a somewhat separate discussion to the default package  
list for an interactive text install. I appreciate the value in a  
minimalized core (and I believe we need to have one at some stage), I  
just don't think we're ready to have that discussion until the package  
refactoring and naming project completes though. One obvious direction  
may well to have a selection of package selections based on a specific  
task (email server, AMP stack, ...), as I touched on when looking at  
Ubuntu server.


Glynn

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