sorry c_doug, I was trying to be a little lite and facetious and it
failed, I was really trying to point out that your issue was one of
mysql vocabulary and db 'stuff' and not really related to Cake per
say, not that this is not a place to ask those kinds of questions but
also to perhaps guide you to better resources that as a person new to
the environment you might not of been aware of.  Like you said we do
not always know where to look.\.

The being 'cranky' part was related to the self reference of 'the old
fart' again an attempt to be a little silly that failed, after all I
am an old fart and my sense of humor does not jive all the time with
young whipper snappers (again an attempt to be lite)  all the
commentary should be taken or not taken with a grain of salt.

please feel free to ask questions and start threads, and please also
feel free to tell me to 'shut the heck up, you old fart'  as I do
often deserve it  ;)

Sam D (the cranky old fart ;)

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