On Nov 3, 2011, at 11:51, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit wrote:

> This is one of the most friendly and responsive forums

No, sorry. This is by far the rudest and least helpful list I've ever been on. 
The fact that that rudeness is often perpetrated by the administrators of the 
list means this is part of the culture of this list and is emulated by other 
list contributors. I've lost could of how many times I've seen someone post a 
question only to receive a dozen rude / unhelpful / snarky replies. Yes, people 
need to be educated about how to ask helpful questions that better enable 
people to help them. But it is possible to do that without insulting them.

One of the authors of Subversion (a program I use, and whose mailing list I 
also participate in) wrote a book, Producing Open Source Software. You can read 
it online for free:

http://producingoss.com/

Not tolerating rudeness is one of the tenets of a good open source project 
that's talked about in the book:

http://producingoss.com/en/setting-tone.html#prevent-rudeness

Notably, this section is written from the perspective that a project 
administrator would be the one reigning in the rudeness of another list member. 
The idea that a project administrator could be the one perpetrating the 
rudeness is so outlandish that it does not appear to have occurred to the 
author.

Clearly the people being rude on this list either do not realize that they are 
being rude, or do not see a problem with being rude to people who have come to 
seek help in a discussion group created specifically for that purpose; either 
problem is alarming.

I suggest the administrators and contributors of this list and this project 
seriously reconsider their manner of interacting with their users if they want 
to stop alienating large portions of their userbase.


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