On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:56:16 PM UTC+7, Jeremy Burns wrote:
>
> Makes no difference - but then why would it?
>

I think I have misunderstood your issue.

I've tried again with this:

         'first_name' => array(
            'maxlength' => array(
                'rule' => array('maxlength', 10),
                'message' => 'too long',
                'required' => true,
                *'allowEmpty' => true,*
                ),
            'minlength' => array(
                'rule' => array('minlength', 3),
                'message' => 'too short',
                ),
            ),
        );

Having allowEmpty = true removes the 'required' class with the rule is 
still active. Is this what you need?

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