That's also what I thought.

Which is the reason why I can't see why I cannot extract in one operation 
every messages that may be displayed by my app: the core messages (like you 
said, the times/dates stuff), my app messages (from my views, 
controllers...) and the model validation messages.

I've opened a ticket on lighthouse about my issue: 
http://cakephp.lighthouseapp.com/projects/42648-cakephp/tickets/3442

Le dimanche 9 décembre 2012 20:01:07 UTC+1, euromark a écrit :
>
> @cricket
> I think you messed sth up earlier.
> the dev messages (domain dev) are the ones not public.
> the normal core messages will very much end up in the frontend (being 
> times/dates for examples or other global stuff)
>
> its just that they do not change that often - compared to the app ones.
>
>
>
>
> Am Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2012 03:00:02 UTC+1 schrieb cricket:
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Cyrille Faucheux 
>> <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> > Yes, using version control is a solution, just as saving and replacing 
>> some 
>> > files, but I don't like this solution, because it requires a manual 
>> > intervention. 
>> > 
>> > What do you mean by "nothing will get done" ? That "it's working the 
>> way 
>> > it's meant to work", or that "nobody will take care of it" ? 
>>
>> I was referring to your unwillingness to overwrite your pot files. But 
>> I think now that I misunderstood what you meant. When you extract the 
>> core files you should be asked: "Would you like to merge all domains 
>> [sic] strings into the default.pot file?" 
>>
>> If you choose not to, you'll end up with several files: 
>>
>> app.pot  cake_console.pot  cake_dev.pot  cake.pot  default.pot 
>>
>> The default file is the one with your app's strings. 
>>
>> > I can submit a patch if it's what you are pointing out. I'm just 
>> looking for 
>> > some insight about how it's supposed to work. 
>>
>> I don't know what the initial problem is, or whether it's a bug. If 
>> you think it is you can report it here (or check if it's already 
>> there): 
>>
>> http://cakephp.lighthouseapp.com/dashboard 
>>
>> > Currently, I can't see why the extract process has an option 
>> > "--extract-core". Why would someone want to ignore the core messages ? 
>> And 
>> > why extracting the core messages is exclusive to extracting the 
>> validation 
>> > messages ? Does someone knows why it has been desined this way ? 
>>
>> Many people (myself included) will not want to translate the core 
>> messages because with debug = 0 they will not be seen by the public. 
>> If I'm not going to take the time to translate them, I'm not going to 
>> want them extracted (and certainly not merged into default.pot). The 
>> exception is for 404 errors and such, but those can be placed in 
>> View/Error and they'll be extracted along with the rest of the 
>> non-core files. But missing_action, missing_table, etc. can be ignored 
>> because those aren't errors that should be thrown in a live site. Of 
>> course, it's another story if your developers would prefer reading dev 
>> errors in their own language. But it's good to have the option whether 
>> to extract everything or just the app's strings because a lot of 
>> people can't be bothered. 
>>
>

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