On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 11:22:33 PM UTC+1, pete wrote:

> I like the "code first" approach in doctrine and i'm really missing this 
> in cakephp to write the model and generate the database.

 
I like to start by writing up model test cases+fixtures and then moving 
them to cake schema when I'm satisfied with the result. I'm not really that 
familiar with doctrine, but I get the feeling that schema (or Migrations) 
is a very underused shell. 

Is it possible that a tighter coupling between Model, fixtures and 
SchemaShell which would allow for a more "code first" approach?

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