Sorry, Dave, that was not my intention.

I invited you to read about the changes in PHP since the square brackets 
have been around for some time and I think it could be good if you get up 
to date with all the new goodies PHP has to offer you a a developer. It 
only takes around 10 minutes to read from the PHP official docs.

On Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:48:10 PM UTC+2, Dave Edwards wrote:
>
> Thanks, I thought that this is where I may get some help over the new 
> 'features' or ways of working in 3.xx, that I do not understand, and not 
> told to go and read up on PHP - that's actually quite dismissive and 
> patronising. What I actually need to understand is what you've done to Cake 
> 3.xx. because I do not understand your new documentation - sorry for being 
> so thick. I may be mistaken, but I thought that cake got it's name because 
> using the framework was a 'piece of cake' i.e. simple to use - I'm afraid 
> as a user of cake that this is no longer the case :(
>
> I do understand 2.xx and its' documentation... not 3.xx
>
> A a couple of examples, in 2.xx I could do this
>
> $key = $this->User->field('temp_key')
>
> now I have to do this
>
> /* something else needs to go here, but I haven't worked it out yet 
>  because I keep getting errors*/
> $key = $users->find()->extract('temp_key')
>
> another example is that I could do this
>
> if ($this->User->validates(array('fieldList' => array('email'))))
> {
>
> }
>
> now I have to do this
>
> $users = TableRegistry::get('Users');
> $user = $users->newEntity($this->request->data());
> $valid = $users->validate($user, ['email']);
>
> if ($valid) {
>
> }
>
> Is this progress?
>
> With regards to square brackets, (now that I've looked it up), you could 
> have simply said that in PHP 5.4 square brackets are a short syntax for 
> array(), and whilst the old method will not be removed, we've decide to use 
> them. I would have understood that - so I'm obviously not that thick.
>
> If we were all programmers to your standard, we wouldn't need to use a 
> framework, but a framework *should* remove the hard work...
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:03:00 UTC+1, José Lorenzo wrote:
>>
>> I think to read a bit more of how php works, it will help you understand 
>> much better how to work with CakePHP. I don't know a good tutorial for 
>> learning PHP, though.
>> You can also google about the new features in the language since PHP 5.3, 
>> specially the changes in 5.4 since you look confused about the use of 
>> square brackets.
>>
>> On Sunday, September 21, 2014 7:43:03 PM UTC+2, Dave Edwards wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, but neither seem to work...
>>>
>>> You suggested, $allTitles = $articles->find()->extract('title');
>>>
>>> I tried $users->find()->extract('temp_key') but gives an error of 
>>> Call to a member function find() on a non-object
>>>
>>> You suggested $this->User->validates(array('fieldList' => array('email', 
>>> 'password')))
>>>
>>> I tried $this->User->validates(array('fieldList' => array('email'))) but 
>>> gives an error of
>>> Unknown method "validates"
>>> I wouldn't have thought that the second solution would have worked 
>>> anyway as 3.xx seems to have done away with the use of the word array in 
>>> favour of square brackets. why I don't know?
>>>
>>> In fact, I've just found an entry on validating in controllers in '
>>> http://book.cakephp.org/3.0/en/orm/table-objects.html' why this isn't 
>>> in 'http://book.cakephp.org/3.0/en/core-libraries/validation.html', I 
>>> again don't know. This seems to be a common theme with the new docs, with a 
>>> lot of useful information scattered across the docs in many different 
>>> places and not always where you'd expect to find it!
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 21 September 2014 13:29:55 UTC+1, Dr. Tarique Sani wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are several ways to achieve what you want and they are all in the 
>>>> docs. Quoting a few lines from the V3 Book
>>>>
>>>> $allTitles = $articles->find()->extract('title'); //you can add a 
>>>> ->where() to this 
>>>>
>>>> $this->User->validates(array('fieldList' => array('email', 'password')))
>>>>
>>>> Yes your controller looks just about right and it is very easy to 
>>>> understand what to expect as I read further. 
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> T
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dave Edwards <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to write an app in 3.xx using functionality that I have 
>>>>> previously used in 2.xx but despite scouring the docs, I cannot find the 
>>>>> answers. Apologies if they are in there, but there seems to be  5x the 
>>>>> amount of documentation especially around the new ORM.
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2.xx I could easily find the value of a single field e.g. 
>>>>> $this->User->field('temp_key') Is there a 3.xx equivalent ?
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2.xx I could validate a field in a model 
>>>>> e.g. $this->User->validates(array('fieldList' => array('email'))) Is 
>>>>> there 
>>>>> a 3.xx equivalent ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly a general question. The top of my Users controller currently 
>>>>> looks like this, and I've not yet finished it...
>>>>>
>>>>> namespace App\Controller;
>>>>>
>>>>> use App\Controller\AppController;
>>>>> use Cake\Network\Exception\ForbiddenException;
>>>>> use Cake\Event\Event;
>>>>> use Cake\ORM\TableRegistry;
>>>>> use Cake\Utility\Security;
>>>>> use Cake\ORM\Entity;
>>>>>
>>>>> class UsersController extends AppController {
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this look right, compared to the simplicity of 2.xx this now 
>>>>> looks very unwieldy and complicated?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any replies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
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