Saving works fine with using the _ids, but as soon as I add join data to 
the mix, it refuses to save with validation errors.

Also, if I include the entire Attribute entity, and remove the validation 
of attribute_id and listing_id from listings_attributes, I can get the 
attributes to save, but the _joinData still does not save.  It is obviously 
not working as advertised.

Also, I looked for test cases in the test code and found none.  

It appears that it is time to write it up as a bug...

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