Ralph,

This is why I pointed out "maybe you are not like that at all." I
wasn't making a judgement about the way you behave, I was just pointing
out that it's so simple to contribute, you don't need to be a Cake
expert to do so. Just small things you found on the way are good
enough. Like your SQL views example. Those are the things that make the
learning curve an even better experience. When we all have the
philosophy of "i solved a problem I didn't see somewhere on the net, so
I'll post a blog entry to prevent other bakers from having to deal with
the same issues."

As to your comment about Cake future, it all depends on the community.
Personally I have over 16 years of programming (I started very young)
and I've been involved on several open source projects (on PHP, Java,
C++, C# and Perl.) Cake is by far the only project where I found a
community that is very dynamic and eager to learn / share. This tells
me that Cake has a great future ahead, and no one should think
different. But then again, it's just MHO.

However I don't think there's a framework, or any technology for that
matter, that can pinpoint the exact needs of every user level. It can't
be excellent on every aspect, and solve every specific need. Just take
the new ribbon system on Microsoft Office, while some say is great for
begginners, some believe it'll present an adaptation issue for current
office users. It's a give and take situation.

I do believe CakePHP is a RAPID development framework. It has speed up
my PHP development, no doubt. But it has also improved the way I code
on PHP, letting me feel things are more elegant (the way I feel when I
program in Java, C#, or C++.) Cake is bringing a structured way of
programming to PHP that other frameworks have yet to proove they can.

Stay with Cake. You won't regret it. We may have some long way to go
regarding documentation, but if we all give our two cents, that's going
to be a problem in the past very soon.

PS: Thanks for the 3 star rating ;)

On 21 ene, 07:02, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Well Mariano I don't blame you for writing that. I tried not to sound
> like a whiner, but evidently I didn't succeed, and I regret that.
>
> I am truly sorry to be so cranky, and I hope lots of readers will
> correct my egregious errors and general wrong-headedness.
> 
> Thank you, Mariano, for taking a stab at straightening me out.


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