thanks Chris for your hint.
In the manual i couldn't find anything about this
particular value for $recursive. it just tells about
values between 1 and 3.
j.


> You can pass an optional variable called $recursive via your find
> statements  set to -1 to stop your find from pulling in any associated
> records:
> 
> http://manual.cakephp.org/chapter/models
> 
> --


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