On Jan 28, 5:46 pm, Bernard Grosperrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Chris> I have never used an SQL view and would love to see a real-world
> > example of when a view should be used over, say, the CakePHP model
> > combined with associations.That's a pretty typical (and kinda sad) answer 
> > from someone with no real
> sql/ database background, and happy with MySQL, which just recently,
> (version 5) realised that Views, stored procedures, triggers, etc are
> MANDATORY in any serious database engine.( I use Postgresql exclusively
> with Cake, and am increasingly frustrated by the numerous limitations of
> cake versus a REAL database)

Okay, if you even think about fronting that holier-than-thou 
PostgreSQL bulls**t, you're going to get yourself banned from this 
list so fast it'll make your head spin.

Having worked extensively with both MySQL and PostgreSQL in production 
environments, I can tell you objectively that MySQL is more than 
adequate for *most* applications.  The company I work for maintains 
databases of voter registration records, which is several TB of data, 
in PostgreSQL.  Some queries which would take just a few minutes in a 
properly-clustered MySQL environment take *hours* on Postgres, which 
sucks a** by any measurement.

That's not to say we don't use Postgres for a reason, but the point is 
that there's a correct tool for every job, sometimes more than one, 
but I've had this argument way to many times, and I won't suffer it 
again here.  No more MySQL-bashing or Postgres arrogance.  End of 
discussion.


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