On 3/2/07, Chris Hartjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 2/27/07, Felix St. Bernard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That was enough said.... Don't you think? I understand how queries like
> > his may "upset" you but keep your frustrations to yourself. You could
> > have also just made reference to the recent post "CakePHP IRC and
> > GoogleGroup Etiquette Suggestions" which may help this newby not repeat
> > what he just did. And that would be a whole lot less rude on your part.
> > If you can't do that then save yourself some typing time and just not
> > reply. Everyone has to start somewhere. Have a nice day.
> >
> > FSB
>
> I guess you could've saved yourself some typing time as well and not
> replied to me either, eh Felix? The younger version of me would've
> taken great offense at you've said, telling me I don't have a right to
> be frustrated and to not express myself.  After all, you're expressing
> your frustrations and opinions.  I'd like to think I'm allowed to do
> the same.
>
> Anyway, here's my point:  rude dickheads like myself are needed on a
> mailing list such as this one to remind people that there are certain
> rules to be followed, and one of those are to not expect people giving
> up their own free time (unless there are some very lucky people on
> this list who get paid to work on CakePHP) to provide with all the
> answers so you can just cut-and-paste without learning anything.  I'm
> 100% positive I'm not the only one on this mailing list who feels this
> way, I'm just one of the few who actually says it out loud...er on the
> mailing list.
>
> I'm all for helping people who are at least TRYING to learn something.
> Asking such a broad-based question as the one that started this
> thread means the person hasn't even bothered to do a shred of
> research.
>
> So, Mani, I highly suggest you search through the manual, look at the
> blog tutorial, and search the google groups archive for this mailing
> list.  If the answer isn't in there, then I'm sure someone (hey, it
> might even be me) will be more than happy to answer your question.
> I'm not such a bad guy, honest.
>
> Give someone code, they learn nothing.  Teach them why their code
> isn't working and they'll learn something.

It is true that Mani's question was probably a frequent one, and that the
answer can be found in the "Models" chapter of the CakePHP manual.

But, sorry Chrys , your initial reaction was too harsh. I read this
thread again
and I am not convinced at all that Mani really meant that others should
"write code for him , for free" .


-- 
Adrian Maier

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