On Mar 21, 2007, at 4:41 PM, stevenoone wrote:
> > I'm sure for some people the Cake approach makes perfect sense and I > don't doubt that this framework, when used by someone who understands > it well, can dramatically speed development time. Unfortunately > there's people like myself for whom much of this is new, and it's not > unreasonable for us to be frustrated by nuances we haven't yet wrapped > our brains around. Everyone's experience learning this framework is > going to be unique based on their programming background and > familiarity with MVC concepts. It's wonderful that individuals are > volunteering their time to help others get started, but it seems like > sometimes that "help" consists of handwaving half-answers and links to > other semi-related threads. > > Most of us aren't idiots and we wouldn't be posting questions if we > hadn't tried to come up with the answers ourselves. If you don't want > to help in this forum - don't. If you're tired of answering the same > questions, provide good documentation or some well-commented sample > apps and let us pick through the code. This "blame the user for being > confused" attitude in some of these posts and evident in the "essay" > linked above doesn't help anybody. In order for everyone to be happy we're all going to need to try to meet in the middle. For people asking questions: make a better effort to find previously answered questions. Search this group, the Bakery, the Manual, API and if all else failsGoogle. Chances are if you're new, its been asked before. Twice. Its okay to get frustrated with a new system, but try to keep that in check. For the development team: we'll try our best to bulletproof the docs. I try to keep a good handle on the frustrations here and in the IRC channel. Please know we're trying to do what you're asking. Its okay to get frustrated at the lack of resources and constant influx of n00bs, but try to keep that in check. I suppose these both go without saying. Let's just keep plugging on, people. -- John --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
